What if Kurds Were Palestinians?

[talsor]

Well, one thing is clear for me: I advice you to never go into politics because you don't know how politics work.

putting a gun in someone's hand knowing in advance that he is going to murder someone is not politics , it is murder no matter how you put it .

If you start blaming nations for their 'mistakes' in the past, then nobody will take you serious my friend.

Mistakes ? and in the past ? are you saying that supplying turkey with weapons to kill kurds is/was a mistak ? because so far you have be trying to validate Israel's arm trade with turkey .
and it is not in the past only . Israel continue to provide support to turkey despite the so called suspension .As far as I know Israel's Heron are still flying over Northern Kurdstan or Ami just imaging that .

USA Government aided Nazi-Germany in the late 20's and 30's. They gave money to Adolf Hitler. Hitler conviced them that he would use the money to pay France and other countries for their losses in World War 1. But instead, Adolf Hitler build his army's with the indirectly financial support of the United States. Not many years later, more than 250,000 United States soldiers were killed by the army's of Nazi-Germany. Indirectly, by their own government.

stick to the topic and do not make it look like Israelis government do not know what they are doing or they are being fooled by turkey .

Israel stopped selling weapons to Turkey. And yes, they did sold weapons to Turkey, and yes, Turkey used some of these weapons to kill Kurds.
But my friend, that is how the world works. Times change as you can see. Israel isn't selling weapons to Turkey anymore, so the past is not relevant. The PKK fighters have used Israeli weapons also to kill Turks. Israel was a neutral party in this case.

are kidding me ? September 2011 turkey froze 16 defense contracts worth billions of dollars . Turkey suspended a 5 billion dollar deal for 1,000 Merkava Mk 3 tanks. Turkey also dropped Israel Aerospace Industries Arrow-2 anti-ballistic missile system worth $2 billion from bidding . So do not try to make it look that Israel made a mistake and now they are trying to fix it . Isreal did not suspend anything , it is turkey who suspended Israel's arm flow .

by the way , we are not taking about some AK47 here , Just to give you a glimpse of what Israel were providing to turkey I will give you some statistics from 2007 . if you need more , I will be happy to provide it for you .

Modernization of Turkey's F-4 Phantoms and F-5 aircraft – $900 million.
Upgrading 170 of Turkey's M60A1 tanks – $687 million.[23]
Popeye-I and Popeye-II missiles.
Popeye-II surface-to-air missiles – $150 million.
10 Heron UAV - $183 million.[23]
Arrow anti-ballistic-missiles. (Agreed in principle by Israel; approval by the United States pending.)
The agreement provided exchange of pilots eight times a year; allowed Israeli pilots to practice "long range flying over mountainous land" in Turkey's Konya firing range; and permitted Turkish pilots to train at Israel's computerized firing range at the Nevatim airfield.[24]

But as I mentioned before; don't try politics. You are too much influenced by personal feelings/emotions. That is not only very unpolitical, but also very dangerous.

I do not know how much personal it will get when you see you people slaughtered by Israeli made arms . Any person with an ounce of dignity will reject that and condemn it .

[talsor]

Well, then I wish you success with hating almost all the military's in the world, since almost all of them are influenced by the Israeli military.

Israel is doing what it is b est for their people. You can't blame them. Period.
Kurds are doing the same thing and if South-Kurdistan becomes independent and the government decides to use Turkey for it's oil export, are you then also going to blame the Kurds for not chosing the Arab side? Because a decision like that will bring a lot of poverty (even more then there is now) to the Sunni part of Iraq and a lot will starve.

Next time , do not get in to a discussion regarding an issue you do not know nothing about . Simply insulting muslims and arabs and turks and Iranian While kissing Isreali A~s will not get you anything . You do not have to fear Israel so much to the point of blindly supporting their policies in arming turkey to the teeth Then try to validate it by calling it politics .

[talsor]

Only Germany is still paying Israel for what they've done during World War 2. And Israel has the full right to blame other countries as well. More than 6 million Jews have died during World War 2. That is at least 1200 times the Halabja gas bombing. And we are also still blaming the Arabs for doing that and other nations for not helping us.

So you are an Israelis then
Next time just come out and say it instead of pretending to be a Kurd and insulting the enemies of Isreal in the name of Kurds . Sneaky don't you think ?

Secondly , You blame (as per your post above ) all the nation that prosecuted you and those who collaborated in prosecuting you , going after them when the war was done and you would not even condemn Isreal collabortion with turkey in prosecuting Kurds ? This my friend is the true definition of hypocrisy .

I will tell you one thing; NOBODY will help other people unless it is in their own interest! Look at South-Kurdistan for example; we have been oppressed, but South-Kurdistan will never help another oppressed people besides the Kurds. Evidence --> more than 1,000,000 Arabs have died since 2003. Kurds didn't REALLY try to protect them, right? What did we do? We were boosting our economy and becoming rich and wealthy, while the Arabs in central & south Iraq were ripped apart by bomings, kidnapped, etc.

Not true , without the kurds acting like a peace maker you would have had 2 million dead in Iraq . Beside stop acting like you care . On one hand you insult arabs and on the other hand you cry rivers for them .

But then don't blame other people for doing things which is in their own interest. That is not realistic .

Isreal can do what it want to , but lets just not fool ourselves by calling them our brothers and friends .

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You are a fucking idiot, do you realize that?

So every time you run out of word you resort to insults ? . Do you think insulting others proves a point ?

I am a better Kurd than you are and if you say I pretend like I am Kurd, than you are even worse than a dead Arab dog.
Only what my father has done as a Peshmerga, is more than what your entire familiy, especially you, will ever do for the Kurdish cause.

I hope you are , although I doubt that and why are you so offended ?

Where are you from as I may ask? I think you are from North Kurdistan.
You sound like one anyway.

It might surpise you , but I was born and raised in the South .

[alan131210]

worldboy no need to swear at Taslor , remember he is a mod .

anyway swearing should not be tolerated here cos one would have a different opinion than you .