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kurds do terrroist attack ?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:53 pm
Author: dyaoko
a sad news....
TAK claims responsibility for the attack in Cesme
in which western tourists been killed...
http://www.dozame.org/article.php/20050710134210221

by my idea. this is the worst thing that TAL could do...whole the world is sad for london...and now when they hear this news...they think we are also like arabs muslem terrristss...

so sad....

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:54 pm
Author: Diri
No... They won't think like that...

They will think that TAK is like EFTA... They are not terrorist... They are activists... They have no intention to hurt these people - the fault lies in the hands of the Turkish police - TAK has given them notice - and told them that the bomb would blow up in the area... But they didn't take precautions - and THAT is why 20 people were wounded...

The method used is the same as the Basque EFTA organization - they plant bombs and tell people and the police to get the hell out of there - and then they blow up the bomb... So nobody is meant to be hurt - they are doing it to get international awareness... They want a peacefull solutin - and they are using violence as a peacefull means...

This type of activism is good - in my oppinion... ALL THESE DAMN TOURISTS that go to Turkey are PAYING TO KILL KURDS! All the monet they use goes to the Turkish state - which again uses the money to buy wepons and KILL KURDS!

I am GLAD that they are warning befor they blow up the places - becuase if they hadn't they would have been like Al-qaida... But they are NOT - 1) it has nothing to do with religion and 2) they are not hurting people... (The Turkish police is to blame for the wounding of 20 people - not TAK!!!)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:28 am
Author: dyaoko
diri you are so radical.... I didnt expcet that !

those who were killed were Civil ! you must undrestand that , and those who killed them are Coward ! why they dont fight like a Brave man ?

I dont want kurdish peshmergas to fight like this....we never had such things in our history...


let me tell you something Diri....Vladimir the Dear Friend of Kurds is in Turkey now for vocation....

when I heared that news....my heat beat as rapidly as hell...I just wished Vladimir be ok.... Vladimir is the best friend of kruds taht I have ever seen in my life....

among those who been killed, there is one english and one russian..

thats terreble....this happened excaly after "london terroirst attack"
that makes a lot of bad reputation for kurds....ppl in the world have no idea what are kurds...now after their attention been brought to terrorist...and now everybody says "Fuck terrorists..." kurds are trying to be terrorirst.


I cnodem this terroirst attack...why TAK didnt attack to the Village Guards...it was in the news that a village gaurd killed his own son for having kurdistan aspiratiion in mind......why tak didnt go and kill that fucking village guard or those turk soliders who rape to kurds...
and instead goes and kills civilians...thats terreble

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:03 am
Author: dyaoko
sometimes we get more things from Appologize and Condeming Ourselves than "Defending" our wrong works...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:27 am
Author: kardox
dyaoko wrote:sometimes we get more things from Appologize and Condeming Ourselves than "Defending" our wrong works...



Its indeed sad to hear about kurds being stamped as terrorists. PKK/KOngra-gel/KKK must not let turks misuse them to achieve their goals. We all know that they will do anything to get an excuse to invade south Kurdistan. It will be historically condemned if the pkk let this happen.


thx

The blod is on turkish hands.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:53 pm
Author: Kurdistany
I don't know why, and this may sound a bit over exaggerated but...

Couldn't the Turkish government have anything to do with this?

Turkey is having problems getting backing to defeat the Kurdish guerrillas, this would be the perfect time to announce something like this?

And Kurds as always are the escape goats.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:47 pm
Author: Piling
Couldn't the Turkish government have anything to do with this?


probably but we have no way to prove it because they are supported too by the PKK. BTW this name of "HAWK" sound not Kurdish, but a bit Turco-shamanist... Kurds prefer abtract names for their party like Freedom, Democracy, Forces, etc...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:19 pm
Author: Delal
Wait a second! They are "activists" because they gave notice first? Well since the IRA gave notice in all of their bombings does that make them "activists" instead of "terrorists"? An activists draw attention to an issue in a non-violent way (Gandi was an activist), terrorists draw attention to an issue in a violent way by causing panic and fear.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:58 pm
Author: dyaoko
hey I found this on Kurdistan Regoinal Governemnt site...
very clever of KRG !

Terrorism has no place in the Kurdish national struggle :
http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... =1#more563

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:31 pm
Author: Diri
Hey I some of you don't wanna understand... That's your choice...

What I was trying to stress was - WHY DIDN'T THE POLICE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT - THEY WERE WARNED!!!???

So... As for the terror part - Look at EFTA - in Spain and France... They are demanding national rights... And they send warnings one hour before the bomb goes off... PILING - do you know if EFTA is on the terrorist list?

Kurdistany - We don't know... And as Piling said - we can't proove it... Although there is a chance that Turkey had a finger in the job... I mean - WHO in their right mind wouldn't take a bomb warning serious??? SICK TURKIS POLICE!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:34 pm
Author: Delal
While the Turks can be blamed for many things, they can not be blamed for the deaths in the bombing...I'm sorry but that is really streching the truth there.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:45 pm
Author: dyaoko
I belive , condeming this terrorist job , is our duty... did you watch Kurdistan TV , the ansar islam group did the same thing that TAK did...they bombed civil ppl for Islamic Goals...
if we condem Ansar Islam then we must condem this Job too .

we should say because that group did that ...we must do this... thats not reasonable.... we kurds want independece because we want 40 million kurds to be happy and live in hapinnes.... but we dont want to get that goal by "killing civil tourist ppl" that really stupid...


Delal wrote:While the Turks can be blamed for many things, they can not be blamed for the deaths in the bombing...I'm sorry but that is really streching the truth there.

Delal I still hope they hasnt done it...just 4 houre ago , VOA Persian said , it hasnt been proved yet that kurdish rebel or islamic rebels had hand in this bomobnig...
if you want my idea, i wont be surpised if i hear turks has done it.... because whole the world is condeming London terrorist attack...they want to Stick themself to London and say "hey hey ...our pain is the same...there is no kurdish problem in our coutnry...it is just terroirst problem....let kill all of them ...they are the same"

however.... we must condemn it before medias comden it...no mattter a kurd did it or a Leftist Turk or an islamic... killing Sinless Civil ppl is stupid.

Humans life is not someting that you can repay.... that bomb killed some Civil PPL ! and they will never can come back to life....they lost life forever... for no sin !