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Re: Israeli Kurds want representation in Pan-Kurdish confere

PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:10 am

Aslan wrote:i see people r still arguing .... y is it wen pilings posts something a argument happens lol

I got lost :-o is someone going to invite ALGERIANS to the conference 8-}
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:35 am

Aslan wrote:i see people r still arguing .... y is it wen pilings posts something a argument happens lol



I am surprised that Feyli_Kord did not yet incriminate French State in my diet posts, btw.
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Re: Israeli Kurds want representation in Pan-Kurdish confere

PostAuthor: Shirko » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:20 pm

The main point is that many Kurds, like the in in Israel, are attached to the main land in one way or another, they are a part of Greater Kurdistan. These particular Kurds (if they are and also.consider themselves Kurds that are Jewish and not just Jews that came from Kurdistan.who.lived with Kurds and spoke Kurdish at one time), can be attached to SK because they came from there. Or WK, because Israel and Palestine are part of the former Ottoman province attached to what is now Syria. Or they can be included in group with Kurds from in that former province, all combined will form approximately 5% of the total Kurdish population. These are areas that should be also part of a greater Kurdistan and those people should have certain rights. Like freedom to call themselves Kurds, speak and educate their children in Kurdish, should be able to have freedom of travel across borders, and they should have the right to in the mainland Kurdistan if they choose, provided that they can prove paternal Kurdish decent.
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Re: Israeli Kurds want representation in Pan-Kurdish confere

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:56 pm

I just remember that there are also many Kurds in Armenia, Georgia, Russia, and especially in Kazakhstan (Stalin deported them in 40s), where they have preserved their own culture and speak a very good kurmancî. They are Kurds, they are fond of other Kurdish communities (many of them visit KRG). They are Kazakh by citizenship, but feel themselves as a part of Kurdish nation.

I think especially of Knyaz Mirzoev, who was with at the International Congress of Kurdish Studies, in 2011 May, in Duhok. As I spoke in Kurmancî, some people from Sulaymanieh had probably less understood me than Knyaz : his kurmancî is like N. Kurdistan speakers.

His daughter came once in visit to the Kurdish Institute in Paris, with a group of Kazakhs, Kurds or not, just for greetings. She has lived all her life in Kazakhstan but she speaks a very good kurmancî ( I suppose his father encouraged this fact)



So there is a difference between belonging to a people/nation, and a state.
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Re: Israeli Kurds want representation in Pan-Kurdish confere

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:35 pm

Piling wrote:I am surprised that Feyli_Kord did not yet incriminate French State in my diet posts, btw.



Piling wrote:I just remember that there are also many Kurds in Armenia, Georgia, Russia, and especially in Kazakhstan (Stalin deported them in 40s), where they have preserved their own culture and speak a very good kurmancî. They are Kurds, they are fond of other Kurdish communities (many of them visit KRG). They are Kazakh by citizenship, but feel themselves as a part of Kurdish nation.

I think especially of Knyaz Mirzoev, who was with at the International Congress of Kurdish Studies, in 2011 May, in Duhok. As I spoke in Kurmancî, some people from Sulaymanieh had probably less understood me than Knyaz : his kurmancî is like N. Kurdistan speakers.

His daughter came once in visit to the Kurdish Institute in Paris, with a group of Kazakhs, Kurds or not, just for greetings. She has lived all her life in Kazakhstan but she speaks a very good kurmancî ( I suppose his father encouraged this fact)



So there is a difference between belonging to a people/nation, and a state.

What does this have to do with this topic? And why do you ignore my posts? Probably because i'm not some kurdish patriot with broken english, and can deconstruct your fallacious views and your empty, reality-absent reasoning. You're nothing more than liberal european orientalist, ignorant about reality. There are hundreds of thousands of you, living in sheltered suburbian west, and they all reason the same. You won't even acknowledge the realities of your own country, but you dictate reality of ours.

So expect, whenever i smell bullshit. I'll go there to challenge you and however westerner with bullshit views.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:04 pm

What does this have to do with this topic? And why do you ignore my posts? Probably because i'm not some kurdish patriot with broken english, and can deconstruct your fallacious views and your empty, reality-absent reasoning. You're nothing more than liberal european orientalist, ignorant about reality. There are hundreds of thousands of you, living in sheltered suburbian west, and they all reason the same. You won't even acknowledge the realities of your own country, but you dictate reality of ours.

So expect, whenever i smell bullshit. I'll go there to challenge you and however westerner with bullshit views.


Delirum again : paranoïa, obsessive feeling of victimization 8-| Not worthy to debate without rationality…

But I warn you : if this time you beg for the destruction of all your furious/mad posts, you do it yourself one by one.I won't help you.
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Re: Israeli Kurds want representation in Pan-Kurdish confere

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:42 pm

Piling wrote:Delirum again : paranoïa, obsessive feeling of victimization 8-| Not worthy to debate without rationality…

Obsessive feeling of victimization and paranoia and delirium. Again. No criticism, nothing at all, no rationality coming from you. Majority of europeans who study the middle-east, read orientalist literature. What is paranoid and victimizing about that statement?

You won't even acknowledge real social issues in your own country. Talk about in-denial. Sorry what is delirious about my post here? Because I said that you're an orientalist or because your views are bullshit? You're in denial, because according to you, no racism and no discrimination exists in france or europe. It's all imaginary. Hundreds of organizations are all bullshit and based on delirium. Everyone is lying. Studies, research, from dozens of universities and organizations and thousands of reported and written experiences. it's all bullshit. Only piling is correct. =)) =)) because piling has extensive experience in these issues, both practical and theoretical.

Piling wrote:But I warn you : if this time you beg for the destruction of all your furious/mad posts, you do it yourself one by one.I won't help you.

No, that won't happen. At one point i thought it was a good idea to leave, not just here but some sites. But I then thought, doesn't matter.

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