Roj Bash Kurdistan

Kori Gorani wrote:http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n303574

the launch of the Kurdish edition service in the Sorani dialect

Why are they targeting the 5 million Kurds in South Kurdistan and not the 25 million Kurds in Turkey ?

Sinan wrote:

KurdInEurope wrote:No, there are many sources. As well as other news sources inside North Kurdistan.

Can you gave example. Make sure it's news agency not news portal.

Oh, and FiratNews is very pro-PKK, I think it is owned by PKK.

Me too.

Facepalm. Did you not know that most of these news sources were banned by Turkey and the journalists put in jail?

Here are the ones I read regularly. There are probably tens of others, but again, most of them have been shut down.

Azadiya Welat, Ozgur gundem, DIHA, Avestakurd.

So, you can thank your own government for its ultra-censorship of everything Kurdish. In this battle, PKK medias have been the only one who were able to survive to some degree ( at least on the internet).

I am sure you all know this. Turkey wants to revive the Ottoman empire again, that's why they are doing all this. The architect of all this is Ahmet Davutoglu.

If we remember how this Empire collapsed pitifully and with a bloodbath, it might not be a very good project.

Sinan wrote:

Qonyeyi wrote:
Facepalm. Did you not know that most of these news sources were banned by Turkey and the journalists put in jail?

Here are the ones I read regularly. There are probably tens of others, but again, most of them have been shut down.

Azadiya Welat, Ozgur gundem, DIHA, Avestakurd.

So, you can thank your own government for its ultra-censorship of everything Kurdish. In this battle, PKK medias have been the only one who were able to survive to some degree ( at least on the internet).

We were talking about the news agencies in KRG. I'm not sure if i understand but , you suppose Turkish Government bans these sources on KRG ?

I'm against censorship of Kurdish Media. But i am with them with the destroying of any Pro-Pkk media.

We were talking about Northern Kurdish medias. Look up your own post above friend.

PKK is Kurdish. You are being a hypocrite. What is the logic of not having anything against Kurdish media but have against PKK-media? It makes no sense.

Sinan wrote:

Qonyeyi wrote:We were talking about Northern Kurdish medias. Look up your own post above friend.

I'm talking about KRG, i don't know if you refer the same place.

Our first target will be the northern Iraqi media. There are around 30 media organizations in the region that pick news related to Turkey from the Fırat news agency,

From my previous post.

PKK is Kurdish. You are being a hypocrite. What is the logic of not having anything against Kurdish media but have against PKK-media? It makes no sense.

I don't think you can ever understand me with that kind of logic. Kurds and PKK is not the same thing for me. Kurds are a nation. PKK is a terrorist organization. So it is logical that a nation should have free media. But a Terorist organization can not have.

Before all the flaming, this is how I think. You can see PKK the way you want. But if you want to understand me, try to look things on my perspective.

Ok. Fair enough. Then I believe Turkey should not have any media at all. Nor should Gulen and nor should AKP. Nor should MHP and nor should the Turkish army.

Other than that, can you answer me, when was the last time PKK targeted civilians?

Facepalm x 2. Do you really want us to believe those facist newspapers? Show us some pics, show us the identities of the perpretators and show us a case detailing that these people were PKK. Without that, this is just another Turkish facist propaganda. PKK does not target civilians. Everyone knows this.

Did Sabah and Miliyet report about the more than 70 people that were detained without reason today? Did they report about Roboski the second it happend or more tahn 24 hours after? Did Miliyet and Sabah report about how the police aided the facists in Samsun with their attack on BDP, and Hizbullah attack on PKK students in Dicle university ( there are clear videos and pictures of this as opposed to your so called ''news''). As opposed to Miliyet and Sabah, a PKK media like Firatnews reported about these incidents. Even with videos and pictures. Very clear evidence.

Did Sabah and Miliyet report on the Kurdish civlians killed in various Turkish cross border attacks? I do not think so.

Firatnews is far more reliable than any Turkish newspaper. Funny huh, how a ''terrorist'' newspaper is far more reliable than national newspapers.




Police throw a glass bottle on a MP... In which country do police do things like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLxyLFnZoh0



Despite the fact that you want to remain neutral, the facist mentality is still living inside you.

Or maybe Sabah and Miliyet reported about Murat Izol?

http://kurdishrights.org/2013/04/07/bod ... -by-river/

Again, bold claims. If you know how turkish medias work, you will know that they always come up with this. Do you know what the Turkish medias first reported about after Uludere massacre? They first pointed fingers at PKK killing 34 civilians. Then afterwards, they admitted that it was TSK. After 27 hours. Firatnews reported it after an hour. Do you still think Firatnews is terrorist?

Your pictures show nothing. I went through the hundreds of archives PKK has on their members. All their new members. All their old members. Even all their shehids. To see if I could find someone who looked like that guy. Nobody even matched. Not his name. Not his looks.

Again, this is just turkish media in a nutshell. Whenever something like this happens, they are quick to judge PKK. I suggest you read about Ayhan Carkin. He goes into details about how TSK/MIT/JITEM would kill civilians and then blame PKK back in the 90's.

Fine. Find me Miliyet and Sabah articles that report about the more than 70 detained in Hakkari JUST TODAY. Find me their reports on Murat Izol. Find me their reports on Turkish police aiding Hizbullahcis in their attacks on Kurdish students.

I swear to God, if PKK ever deliberately attack civilians, I will be the first to take distance and shout out loud about such terrorism. But I know who I am supporting. I know that PKK would never do such thing. They would never get popular support if they ever did such thing.

These are just 0,01% of all the news Turkish media hides in order to save the face of the Turkish government. The only ones bringing forth the truth is medias like Kurdistanpost, Firatnews and ROJ TV ( maybe that is why Turkey is trying so hard to shut it down). I could find you 200 other news right here and now that Turkey is still hiding and has been hiding for years, and you know it very well. So when you say Firatnews should not be allowed, then I do not know if it is because you want to hide the truth about the Turkish state terror, or because you really are ignorantly believing that Turkish medias are not favouring one side to its teeth.

Did Turkish news report about the second uludere attempt?

[flash=]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkh-OqbSp8U[/flash]

Actually, you know what is funny; If I want to find out what news Turkish medias want to hide, all I have to do is simply switch over to ANY Kurdish media. Seriously, I do not even have to read Firatnews or any -pro-PKK media. I could look at any given Kurdish media ( even Southern Kurdish ones), be it a newspaper or television, and I will quickly find out what daily news Turkey wants to hide... This should tell you a little about the amount of censorship and facism that dominates Turkish medias.

He looks Turkish to me with that MONO eyebrow



All news agencies are to some extent biased

Firat is very quick to respond to anything concerning Kurds, and I have PERSONALLY never known it to lie or give out misinformation

A great deal of Turkish media is owned by erDOGan's family and therefore cannot be totally trusted. Also, we know that journalists in Turkey live in fear of writing the wrong thing and ending up in prison. I know this to be a fact because some journalists have told me

He looks Turkish to me with that MONO eyebrow

Like this one ?



Before In Iran it was a sign of beauty even for women. And they like mustache also (for women).

Sinan wrote:Believe what you have to believe. I even if you see some PKK member killing a child infront of you, you would say "they are being mind controlled with Turkish Government".

But seriously what is second uludere attempt, jandarma trying to detain smugglers. How can you even relate that to Uludere incident.

P.S: I didn't say Fırat News shouldn't be allowed. ı said Fırat news is sided.

Show me a video, show me pictures. I promise you, I will believe it. Then tell me which time it happend ( as we all know, PKK went through a lot of internal troubles in 90's and not all of their killings came from the central headquarters of PKK, just like not all Jitem/Mit killings came from central Ankara). PKK does not do such thing. I know this is going to be against your intepretion of PKK, but believe me if PKK did such things there would not be a single Kurd supporting them. It is against any Kurdish culture code to target children and women. In fact, PKK supported Kurdish children and women the most, that is why they won the battle against old style conservative Kurdish tribalism and today are leading the Kurdish freedom struggle.

Firat is merily telling the truth that Turkey and ( most of the) international community wants to keep silent. Had it not been for Firatnews, incidents like Uludere and the numerous bombings of civilians in Qandil would never have been put on the international agenda. You can call it sided, I do not care. For me, they are telling the ''ugly'' truth.

Look at the video. Does it seem like an usual ''targeting of smugglers''? They are targeting elders and children. Target smugglers with your police instead, just like they do in all other countries. What are soldiers and military vehicles doing there? This old '' smuggler targetting'' excuse is getting on my nerves.

Piling wrote:

Mazlum Doğan was a VERY brave young Kurd who could NEVER have been mistaken for a Turk

Piling wrote: Before In Iran it was a sign of beauty even for women. And they like mustache also (for women).

Are Iranians particularly hairy? I know that some of the ladies have the most beautiful eyes