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Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in Iraqi

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:24 am
Author: Piling
October 20, 2013

SLÊMANÎ, Kurdistan region 'Iraq',— Kurdish Islamic parties and activists have been angered by a couple’s public kiss in Kurdish city Slêmanî [Sulaimaniyah].

A statue representing love was burnt in the city’s Azadi Park (Freedom Park). In protest, a Kurdish man kissed his Dutch girlfriend in public, sparking anger within conservative communities and Islamic parties.

The Kurdistan Region in Northern Iraq is often considered more secular than the rest of Iraq, yet it is still relatively conservative.

The two Kurdish Islamic parties; Kurdistan Islamic Group (KIG) and Kurdistan Islamic Movement (KIM) denounced the couple’s actions and said their deeds were against Islamic traditions.

“We are against anything that may be offensive, and we recommend that the love statue be replaced with one of executed Kurdish youths,” said KIM spokesperson Shwan Qaradaghi.

Sulaimaniyah has seen some attacks on secular symbols, the latest being when an unidentified group vandalized the grave of late Kurdish poet Sherko Bekas,www.ekurd.net also situated in Azadi Park.

“Everyone should be against the kiss. It’s an effort to disorientate Kurdish Muslim Youths,” added Muhammad Hakim, a KIG Spokesman.

Meanwhile, Human and women rights activists have taken to social media to criticize the Kurdish Islamists.

“In my country kissing is forbidden, but braking graves and statues and blowing yourself up is OK,” wrote women’s rights activist Avin Ibrahim on her Facebook page.

Sulaimaniyah, with an estimated population of over 1.5 million, is Kurdistan’s second most important city, it’s regarded as the Iraq’s most secular city.

Sulaimaniyah is often called the “Paris” of Iraq for its vibrant cultural life and its wide tree-lined boulevards. Known as the cultural capital of Iraqi Kurdistan.

By Hoshmand Sadiq. Published by Ekurd.net in cooperation with Basnews.



Lol, as if there is nothing in Kurdistan more offensive for moral than a kissing couple : poverty, moral suffering, injustice, illness, and so on. And placing instead a martyr's statue is a meaningful way to tell to youth : Prefer Death to Love.

By the way, Sulaymaniah seems to be the favorite place for controversial statues : there has been already the scandal of the Donkey statue, which was vandalized once.

More seriously I have read that Sheko Bekas's grave has been vandalized also, but no more details about that ?

Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:16 pm
Author: Anthea
Piling wrote:
October 20, 2013

SLÊMANÎ, Kurdistan region 'Iraq',— Kurdish Islamic parties and activists have been angered by a couple’s public kiss in Kurdish city Slêmanî [Sulaimaniyah].

A statue representing love was burnt in the city’s Azadi Park (Freedom Park). In protest, a Kurdish man kissed his Dutch girlfriend in public, sparking anger within conservative communities and Islamic parties.

The Kurdistan Region in Northern Iraq is often considered more secular than the rest of Iraq, yet it is still relatively conservative.

The two Kurdish Islamic parties; Kurdistan Islamic Group (KIG) and Kurdistan Islamic Movement (KIM) denounced the couple’s actions and said their deeds were against Islamic traditions.

“We are against anything that may be offensive, and we recommend that the love statue be replaced with one of executed Kurdish youths,” said KIM spokesperson Shwan Qaradaghi.

Sulaimaniyah has seen some attacks on secular symbols, the latest being when an unidentified group vandalized the grave of late Kurdish poet Sherko Bekas,www.ekurd.net also situated in Azadi Park.

“Everyone should be against the kiss. It’s an effort to disorientate Kurdish Muslim Youths,” added Muhammad Hakim, a KIG Spokesman.

Meanwhile, Human and women rights activists have taken to social media to criticize the Kurdish Islamists.

“In my country kissing is forbidden, but braking graves and statues and blowing yourself up is OK,” wrote women’s rights activist Avin Ibrahim on her Facebook page.

Sulaimaniyah, with an estimated population of over 1.5 million, is Kurdistan’s second most important city, it’s regarded as the Iraq’s most secular city.

Sulaimaniyah is often called the “Paris” of Iraq for its vibrant cultural life and its wide tree-lined boulevards. Known as the cultural capital of Iraqi Kurdistan.

By Hoshmand Sadiq. Published by Ekurd.net in cooperation with Basnews.



Lol, as if there is nothing in Kurdistan more offensive for moral than a kissing couple : poverty, moral suffering, injustice, illness, and so on. And placing instead a martyr's statue is a meaningful way to tell to youth : Prefer Death to Love.

By the way, Sulaymaniah seems to be the favorite place for controversial statues : there has been already the scandal of the Donkey statue, which was vandalized once.

More seriously I have read that Sheko Bekas's grave has been vandalized also, but no more details about that ?


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Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:23 am
Author: Aslan
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Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:24 am
Author: Londoner
[quote“In my country kissing is forbidden, but braking graves and statues and blowing yourself up is OK,”][/quote]

...and killing women in the name of honour cleansing is OK.

Many years ago I called on influential liberal Kurds to kiss their female partners in public in order to create kissing culture. It is time now to implement this idea. The new youth generation in Kurdistan can create this revolution.

Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:56 am
Author: Anthea
Londoner wrote:Many years ago I called on influential liberal Kurds to kiss their female partners in public in order to create kissing culture. It is time now to implement this idea. The new youth generation in Kurdistan can create this revolution.

Seems an excellent idea to me - I would much rather see people kissing than being blown up :D

Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:59 pm
Author: Piling
He he ! Now on Twitter a campaign has started : #KissAKurd :lol:

Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:19 pm
Author: talsor
Kurdistan is a "Muslim" "conservative" society and change is not going to happen . Yes it will never happen :lol: and even if it does in the short term , it will at some point go back to 1500 years culture . It is like a swing , the harder you push forward on personal freedom issues the harder it will come back (remember Iran in the 70s) . You simply can not win this battle

The outrage and the Kiss A Kurd campaign is entertaining and all , but it will never work . You can fix a "conservative" society by introducing more personal freedoms in a slow pace , but a "Muslim society " is not fixable , not that it needs any fixing . People are free to choose what they want and if you make a poll in kurdistan right now , I believe over 90% of people will be against kissing in the streets .

We are not the moral campus to other societies nor do we know better . the problem is that every society as with people think they are special and better , but the fact is no one is better or special .

Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:28 pm
Author: talsor
Anthea wrote:
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So you are saying that Dubai , Qatar , KSA , Malisya do not have tourists , investments and foreign workers right ?

Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:19 pm
Author: Piling
Kurdistan is a "Muslim" "conservative" society and change is not going to happen


Since Ur, Jemdet Nasr and Uruk cultures, in Mesopotamia, there have always been some people to tell : 'It has ever been according to our 'conservative' society and change is not going to happen'. :-D

Re: Kurdish Islamists angered by a couple's public kiss in I

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:16 pm
Author: talsor
Piling wrote:
Kurdistan is a "Muslim" "conservative" society and change is not going to happen


Since Ur, Jemdet Nasr and Uruk cultures, in Mesopotamia, there have always been some people to tell : 'It has ever been according to our 'conservative' society and change is not going to happen'. :-D


Their Gods were not as meticulous :-D and even if we think in long terms I believe Islam will rule the world or at least the majority of the world as we know it .

As i mentioned there is always hope and some practical steps that could be taken to improve personal freedoms in a conservative society , But add ISLAM to the equation and you got yourself a chronic condition :-D .