At least 10 dead in Paris shooting - French media

[Anthea]

The victim was a policeman : Ahmed Merabe, 42.

That was terrible he had already been shot and was not a threat

Let us hope that things calm down quickly

Are your offices near the shooting?

[RomaMater]

I was discussing this with a friend from Spain today on Facebook and she says it's starting to cause a back lash in the form of the rise of groups like Front National in France, Pegida in Germany, UKIP in the U.K. and so on. She said something like "Europe is waking up." and I later reflected that the last time Europe 'woke up' it was right before the Second World War.

Horrible day for the French and I hope it doesn't portend for worse things to come- however the defiance and solidarity of the French citizens of all backgrounds to protect their civilization from barbarism is refreshing.

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Charlie Hebdo was hated by Front National and all the far right wings of France. Of course, now FN wants to return these events to their profit, in a stinky way, claiming that death penalty should be allowed etc.



Charlie Hebdo was pro Green Party or Communists, anti Religions (ALL religions) and made fun about Christ, Pope, Muhammad, Rabbis. They were pro Feminists, anti Corrida, anti Capitalism and anti nationalism.

But many fascist parties act like vultures and chacals, now, hungry of dead meat.

We don't need Capital punishment, reprisals, and demagogy. We need freedom of blasphemy and 'fearless disrespect':

“Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms. This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today. I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity. ‘Respect for religion’ has become a code phrase meaning ‘fear of religion.’ Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect.”
— British Indian novelist Salman Rushdie's response to Wednesday’s shooting attack at the Paris offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo

[RomaMater]

Charlie Hebdo was hated by Front National and all the far right wings of France. Of course, now FN wants to return these events to their profit, in a stinky way, claiming that death penalty should be allowed etc.



Charlie Hebdo was pro Green Party or Communists, anti Religions (ALL religions) and made fun about Christ, Pope, Muhammad, Rabbis. They were pro Feminists, anti Corrida, anti Capitalism and anti nationalism.

But many fascist parties act like vultures and chacals, now, hungry of dead meat.

We don't need Capital punishment, reprisals, and demagogy. We need freedom of blasphemy and 'fearless disrespect':

“Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms. This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today. I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity. ‘Respect for religion’ has become a code phrase meaning ‘fear of religion.’ Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect.”
— British Indian novelist Salman Rushdie's response to Wednesday’s shooting attack at the Paris offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo

“To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?”

Marcus Tullius CICERO.

The West is governed according to the morals of one city if it likes it or not: Rome.

Athens, Berlin, London, Moscow, Paris, Washington, etc.

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The West is governed according to the morals of one city if it likes it or not: Rome.

As Christianity borrowed a lot from Ancient Roman Moral (stoicism & hellenism) it makes sense. And as Jesus said “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.", Laicity, Secularism and no religious interference in politics are Christ's teaching.

So Extreme rightist parties and especially Front National are far from Christianism (btw most of them in Europe are against Christianity because it is a 'Jewish religion' and praise Neo Paganism. Let's Odin and Thor take their souls if they wish it.

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Now RAID and GIGN (special forces) surrounded the 2 Jihadists not far from Paris. They will attack in a short time. The only challenge is to take them alive.

[Anthea]

I was discussing this with a friend from Spain today on Facebook and she says it's starting to cause a back lash in the form of the rise of groups like Front National in France, Pegida in Germany, UKIP in the U.K. and so on. She said something like "Europe is waking up." and I later reflected that the last time Europe 'woke up' it was right before the Second World War.

Horrible day for the French and I hope it doesn't portend for worse things to come- however the defiance and solidarity of the French citizens of all backgrounds to protect their civilization from barbarism is refreshing.

I SUPPORT UKIP

I am strongly against non-genuine asylum seekers receiving support in England because they often make it bad for those who are genuine refugees - including victims of torture and those in genuine fear for their life

[RomaMater]

I SUPPORT UKIP

I am strongly against non-genuine asylum seekers receiving support in England because they often make it bad for those who are genuine refugees - including victims of torture and those in genuine fear for their life

UKIP might be the salvation of Great Britain.

'Refugees' are a dime a dozen these days. I prefer to call them 'welfare tourists.'

In America we have 'refugees' from hispanic America, etc. But- hispanic citizens of America aren't supporting 'illegal immigration.'

It is the duty of a civilized society to offer protection for people who are legitimately in danger of death, persecution, etc.

The United States of America is the most powerful nation on Earth at this time- but it is being overwhelmed by people who are NOT in danger of death, persecution, etc.

Christians, Jews, Muslims, Yezidis, etc. being killed en masse by the followers of the never-ending jihad? Not worth the time of the media hypocrites. And now the jihadis are going into Europe it seems- or is the massacre in Paris a case of 'work-place violence'

Why is the U.S.A. more concerned about the non-existent plight of the people in South America rather than the plight of the people in the Middle-East? My country has been in a state of armed conflict in the Middle-East since the New World Order stooge George Bush declared war against Saddam Hussein in 1990.

Now America wants to simply go away?

(Haha, sorry for the diatribe.)

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If you want to understand what was Charlie Hebdo, here is the cover of their last special issue :



So no need for them to be defend by all European Fascists parties.

and the one which expresses the best the spirit of the newspaper :

[Anthea]

'Refugees' are a dime a dozen these days. I prefer to call them 'welfare tourists.'

I like the term 'welfare tourists.'

It is the duty of a civilized society to offer protection for people who are legitimately in danger of death, persecution, etc.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

Christians, Jews, Muslims, Yezidis, etc. being killed en masse by the followers of the never-ending jihad? Not worth the time of the media hypocrites. And now the jihadis are going into Europe it seems- or is the massacre in Paris a case of 'work-place violence'

UK media does little to support or indeed inform people about suffering and slaughter being caused by the jihadists so perhaps they too are hoping they will just go away

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Now Jihadists have taken hostages in a city far of 30 km from my home. Big ambiance

[Anthea]

If you want to understand what was Charlie Hebdo, here is the cover of their last special issue :



So no need for them to be defend by all European Fascists parties.

and the one which expresses the best the spirit of the newspaper :

And were Christians offended? NO

Did Christians shoot the cartoonists? NO

I hope that the people at 'CHARLIE HEBDO' will find in their hearts the strength to continue

[Anthea]

Now Jihadists have taken hostages in a city far of 30 km from my home. Big ambiance

it goes from bad to worse and the longer they hold out the happier other jihadists will be

[Anthea]

BBC Live Reports

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-eu ... iant=nonjs

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If you want to understand what was Charlie Hebdo, here is the cover of their last special issue :



So no need for them to be defend by all European Fascists parties.

and the one which expresses the best the spirit of the newspaper :

And were Christians offended? NO

Did Christians shoot the cartoonists? NO

I hope that the people at 'CHARLIE HEBDO' will find in their hearts the strength to continue

Some Christians were offended but only filed complain in court. Most of these trials have been won by Charlie : France has a tradition of blasphemy since our 'Philosophes des Lumières' and generally caricaturists and satirists' rights are strongly protected by laws.

That's one of the reasons of the great sadness and shock in all the country.

But of course no Christian movements ever call to violence and murder : we have no KKK here.