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Has debate around race issues been stifled?

Trevor Philips, former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said fear of causing offence has stifled debate.

Racial attitudes in Britain have been transformed since the first Caribbean immigrants landed in the UK after the war.

The kind of racism that was commonplace for years is now illegal.

But has debate on race issues been stifled? Have people who want to raise those issues been intimidated.

"I think we are too shy to talk about the real issues", said Trevor Philips, former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

We live in a multi-cultural country that could scarcely have been imagined a couple of generations ago.

Mr Philips himself is black and he was the chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission for ten years.

He's made a documentary for Channel Four called Things we can't say about race that are true.

Link to interview:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02m37ld

One of the most surprising thing from France is the huge use of the word 'races' in UK and America. Here, only nazis or racists talk about 'races' because it is an unscientific notion. In short : in France, only racists believe in 'races'.

But even racist parties who use largely of terms like 'Black' or 'Arabs', these last years put the the controversy more about Islam and Muslims.

Concerning Jews, anti semistism did not change and even increased but changed of actors : traditionnaly since Dreyfus case, antisemitism was far-right topic and a Catholic tradition. Now it is more among Muslims and in a softer way, from Far leftist under the cover of anti-sionism.

But it sounds astonishing to read 'Caucasian' or 'Hispanic' races, as Afro-Americans in American websites. I think that 90% European people ingore that they are supposed to be 'Caucasian' and that Spanish are from a different race than French or Italian people… Strange societies…

Piling wrote:One of the most surprising thing from France is the huge use of the word 'races' in UK and America. Here, only nazis or racists talk about 'races' because it is an unscientific notion. In short : in France, only racists believe in 'races'.

But even racist parties who use largely of terms like 'Black' or 'Arabs', these last years put the the controversy more about Islam and Muslims.

Concerning Jews, anti semistism did not change and even increased but changed of actors : traditionnaly since Dreyfus case, antisemitism was far-right topic and a Catholic tradition. Now it is more among Muslims and in a softer way, from Far leftist under the cover of anti-sionism.

But it sounds astonishing to read 'Caucasian' or 'Hispanic' races, as Afro-Americans in American websites. I think that 90% European people ingore that they are supposed to be 'Caucasian' and that Spanish are from a different race than French or Italian people… Strange societies…

People in the UK are afraid to say anything at all about anyone who is not a member of the white indigenous population. The worse thing was the child grooming scandal - people were afraid to investigate because they were frightened of being called racist

Rochdale sex grooming gang: Police were 'colour blind' to white girls exploited by Asian paedophile ring

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ro ... ce-2947712

Example of how crazy this country has become:

Benedict Cumberbatch Calls Himself an ''Idiot,'' Apologizes After Using the Word ''Coloured'' to Refer to Non-White Actors

http://uk.eonline.com/news/618661/bened ... ite-actors

Pakistanis refer to themselves as coloured and most would feel insulted if anyone referred to them as black

The entire system in the UK is crazy and most of the craziness is aimed at the white indigenous population

I think that I have mention some of this in a previous post:

In Pakistani comedy clubs many of their jokes are about Indians who they feel to be inferior

West Indians from the small islands always make fun of Jamaicans

White businesses are forced to employ ethnic minorities even if there happens to be a more highly qualified white person

However most Indian - Pakistani - Turkish - Polish - Kurdish - Greek - Jewish etc etc etc seem to get away with only employing people from their own ethnicity

In France 'gens de couleur' (coloured people) was not employed for migrants but for 'Free people of colours' in West Indies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_color

We never used 'gens de couleur' to call Africans, Arabs or Asiatic migrants.