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Kurds in Diaspora - Have you noticed?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:06 pm
Author: Diri
Thread to discuss Kurds in diaspora and their behaviour...


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Have you noticed? Maybe it's just Norway - but 99% of Italian Pizza/Pasta etc. restaurants are owned and run by Kurds... Why is that?

I find it very peculiar...


2) Have you noticed? Maybe it's just Norway - but when Kurds start a buisness, it's always food... :shock:

Re: Kurds in Diaspora - Have you noticed?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:40 pm
Author: UE_kurdophile
Diri wrote:Thread to discuss Kurds in diaspora and their behaviour...


1)

Have you noticed? Maybe it's just Norway - but 99% of Italian Pizza/Pasta etc. restaurants are owned and run by Kurds... Why is that?

I find it very peculiar...


2) Have you noticed? Maybe it's just Norway - but when Kurds start a buisness, it's always food... :shock:


Great topic Diri.

As most of you guys now, I am Italian...and I can tell you now that most of take-away pizzas in my city, so an Italian city (!) are owned by Kurds and the ones that are owned by Italians have Kurdish cooks!!
By the way,the pizza they make is always delicious !!!

Last week I saw 2 Japanese girls taking pictures of a typical ITALIAN pizza in a typical ITALIAN restaurant of a typical ITALIAN city with a typical cook..but the typical man was actually a typical Northern-Kurd :lol: ...they didn't realize it at all! Pizza here is now becoming a symbol of Kurds rather than Italians...will Kurds substitute (in the Mahabad flag) the sun with the pizza?? :shock: (no offence please, :roll: I am just joking...take it easy guys).

I don't know much about Norway, but being an ex-volunteer in an immigration centre I know many Kurds here in Italy and most of them don't have a very high education, so if they want to make up money, they have to choose food as a business, it is nearly their only chance.

Why Italian food? Maybe because loads of Italians in the past emigrated to many different countries in and out Europe and some opened up Italian restaurants, therefore our food is well-known and in general it is appreciated, and Kurds know it of course, moreover it is not too much difficult to make.
Another reason why Kurds sell pizzas (and not Japanese sushi orwhatever) is that when they make bread for kebab, with the same owen they can easily make pizza too.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:21 pm
Author: Piling
In France they began to open döner-kebab restaurants in 90s, and in the funniest way they called them Greek-Turkish restaurants (when you red Greek and Turkish together you could be sure that was a Kurd)? Since few years, they begin to call their restaurants "kurdish food". In fact it is always the same kebabxane...

Moreover I made a test : in Southern Kurdistan restaurants are good, not like in Northern Kurdistan... and more various food...

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:47 pm
Author: Arashi
It is the same in Sweden. Alot of pizzerias, kebab-places and Persian-restaurants here are run by either Kurds or Persians.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:58 am
Author: tomjez
Moreover I made a test : in Southern Kurdistan restaurants are good, not like in Northern Kurdistan... and more various food...


Pouhaha! You ate in five stars hotels! Street food in Erbil was awful :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:49 pm
Author: Diri
Arashi wrote:It is the same in Sweden. Alot of pizzerias, kebab-places and Persian-restaurants here are run by either Kurds or Persians.


What do you mean by "Persian-restaurants"?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:53 pm
Author: Piling
Pouhaha! You ate in five stars hotels! Street food in Erbil was awful Wink


Lol, I don't talk about Sheraton, but there are a bucnh of good restaurants in Ankawa (with wine and fish). And even a restaurant with Kurds of Diyarbakir, with good meals : Pushi restaurant in Hewlêr.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:43 pm
Author: Arashi
Diri wrote:
Arashi wrote:It is the same in Sweden. Alot of pizzerias, kebab-places and Persian-restaurants here are run by either Kurds or Persians.


What do you mean by "Persian-restaurants"?


I mean restaurants with the name Persian in them, i.e "Persian Palace", "Shiraz of Persia", "Persisk Restaurang".
We all know Persians stole their language, cuisine, music, dance, culture, mythological heroes, and religion from Kurds, so please don't start with me.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:15 pm
Author: Diri
Arashi wrote:
Diri wrote:
Arashi wrote:It is the same in Sweden. Alot of pizzerias, kebab-places and Persian-restaurants here are run by either Kurds or Persians.


What do you mean by "Persian-restaurants"?


I mean restaurants with the name Persian in them, i.e "Persian Palace", "Shiraz of Persia", "Persisk Restaurang".
We all know Persians stole their language, cuisine, music, dance, culture, mythological heroes, and religion from Kurds, so please don't start with me.



Gotta love ya' Arash! 8)

we experience the same in Denmark

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:05 pm
Author: Quiet_Lady
Hey..

Restaurants are owned and run by Kurds in Denmark too...
I gues because (kurdish men like foods too much):P
I am wondering too as all of you..
Instead of having education, they make foods :(
Overall when ¨somebody asks them, where are you from!
They answered " Iam from Italiano"

Aren´t they proud of beeing kurds :(!!!

Re: we experience the same in Denmark

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:29 pm
Author: Diri
Quiet_Lady wrote:Hey..

Restaurants are owned and run by Kurds in Denmark too...
I gues because (kurdish men like foods too much):P
I am wondering too as all of you..
Instead of having education, they make foods :(
Overall when ¨somebody asks them, where are you from!
They answered " Iam from Italiano"

Aren´t they proud of beeing kurds :(!!!


Welcome Quiet Lady xûşkekem! :D

Bi xêr hatî! 8)

And I think you are right about that... They are not so very proud about being Kurdish... Probably because of the propaganda of our oppressors about how being Kurdish is the same as being backwards, uneducated and lesser than Turkish, Persian or Arabic... But I think that trend is changing - Kurds are becoming more and more self-aware of their identity and all the positive things about being Kurdish! :) So inshAllah they will be prouder day by day for being Kurdish... 8)

Diri brakamie

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:37 pm
Author: Quiet_Lady
Thanks Deri..:). bray mnie.
I hope that they will be proud of beeing kurds day by day ienshalah yarabie..:)

Re: Diri brakamie

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:24 am
Author: Diri
Quiet_Lady wrote:Thanks Deri..:). bray mnie.
I hope that they will be proud of beeing kurds day by day ienshalah yarabie..:)


Insh-Allah! 8)

@All

Is it just me or are Kurds generally not in jobs which require higher education - as for example let's say Persians and Turks?


That is worrying.. We need more educated and not just high school - I am talking Colleges and Universitites... :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:46 pm
Author: Parsi
Arashi wrote:
Diri wrote:
Arashi wrote:It is the same in Sweden. Alot of pizzerias, kebab-places and Persian-restaurants here are run by either Kurds or Persians.


What do you mean by "Persian-restaurants"?


I mean restaurants with the name Persian in them, i.e "Persian Palace", "Shiraz of Persia", "Persisk Restaurang".
We all know Persians stole their language, cuisine, music, dance, culture, mythological heroes, and religion from Kurds, so please don't start with me.


Lol, that's an over exaggeration but it's true to some extent.

In Chicago we don't have many non-Arab middle eastern places, but the restaurants we have are owned by Iranians - idk their ethinicity though. And most are kebob restaurants, but they have Mexican cooks.

Now in Vancouver, there is a large Iranian population, so I met a Kurd who owned a pastry shop called Rose Pastries. There was another pastry shop owned by a Mazandarani too. And quite a few Persians had kebob places, but only 3 out of 8 were good (yes I went to all of them :-) )

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:03 pm
Author: womanizer
I may have misunderstood from your sentence, but mixing Kurds with Iranian or Middle eastern is kind Iranic paranoia.
So Kurds are not Iranian, Kurdistan even with its geopgrapgic and racial can not be considered as middleast, kurdistan is brigde in between middleast and European and will have close conection with caces countries(such as Georgia, Armenia Ukraine..etc).
Again those restaurant owners, they may have come from eastern Kurdistan(Iranian occupied part of Kurdistan) and may have Persian restaurant, is like Chinese owing Japanese restaurant ..something like that.