Future in middle east
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:29 amWhat do you think about the future in middle east? better? worster?
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:29 amPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:36 amnot iranic at least or khomeyni shit
Re: Future in middle east
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:56 amaryanism wrote:What do you think about the future in middle east? better? worster?
The future of the Middle East?
That is a big question...
And the answer is not simple... But the fact is, that it is turning more fascist and more hateful...
The state-governments may be growing softer - but the people are turning to right-wing and islamo-fascist ideologies...
In Turkey there is a rise in popular support for the MHP and ethnic nationalism... And as Turkish fascism grows - Kurdish national awareness also increases and it looks like we are going for a BIG clash between the two ideologies... Islamists are building their own fort too - but they remain crippled as long as the generals are sitting around the table... We might be in for another Coup the way things are going now...
In Egypt, the islamists are slowly winning ground - and the
Muslim Brotherhood party is already a force to be reconed with... Mubarak's son seems the likely heir to the throne - and will most definetly be given hegemony like his father had and still has...
Iran is stagnating - the mullahs are eating up the liver of the country and are making their own people suffer, while they aid Hezbollah, Hamas and the Al-Qaeeda with guns and amunition... It's own people is starving while they are building guns for the Palestinians to continue the bloodshed with Israel... It's building nuclear bombs... What for? To bomb Israel? The USA?
Iraq is in a state of civil war and there is only one way out; balkanization - it will in the long run, be the best policy - since Kurds can't be under Arab rule, and since Shia and Sunni in Iraq can't get a long - and keep bombing and murdering eachother...
Syria is under great pressure from all sides - only friend it has now, is Turkey - which is only interested in cooperating with Syria and Iran because it wants to oppress the Kurds...
So basically, there are four major problems in the Middle East:
1) The Kurds are still stateless
2) Islamists are gaining popular support
3) Palestine has still not been given national borders
4) Right-wing fascists are growing in numbers...
How to solve the problems:
1) Give the Kurds their national homeland: Kurdistan
2) Give Palestinians national borders: Gaza + West Bank
3) Remove dictators and "kings" and other biggots who are holding countries down - like the generals in Turkey and the Mullahs in Iran... Give the people a free choice to decide their own future...
Conclusion: The Middle East is in deep shit - because the problems are never-ending...
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:42 pmThe future of the Middle East?
That is a big question...
And the answer is not simple... But the fact is, that it is turning more fascist and more hateful...
The state-governments may be growing softer - but the people are turning to right-wing and islamo-fascist ideologies...
In Turkey there is a rise in popular support for the MHP and ethnic nationalism... And as Turkish fascism grows - Kurdish national awareness also increases and it looks like we are going for a BIG clash between the two ideologies... Islamists are building their own fort too - but they remain crippled as long as the generals are sitting around the table... We might be in for another Coup the way things are going now...
In Egypt, the islamists are slowly winning ground - and the
Muslim Brotherhood party is already a force to be reconed with... Mubarak's son seems the likely heir to the throne - and will most definetly be given hegemony like his father had and still has...
Iran is stagnating - the mullahs are eating up the liver of the country and are making their own people suffer, while they aid Hezbollah, Hamas and the Al-Qaeeda with guns and amunition... It's own people is starving while they are building guns for the Palestinians to continue the bloodshed with Israel... It's building nuclear bombs... What for? To bomb Israel? The USA?
Iraq is in a state of civil war and there is only one way out; balkanization - it will in the long run, be the best policy - since Kurds can't be under Arab rule, and since Shia and Sunni in Iraq can't get a long - and keep bombing and murdering eachother...
Syria is under great pressure from all sides - only friend it has now, is Turkey - which is only interested in cooperating with Syria and Iran because it wants to oppress the Kurds...
So basically, there are four major problems in the Middle East:
1) The Kurds are still stateless
2) Islamists are gaining popular support
3) Palestine has still not been given national borders
4) Right-wing fascists are growing in numbers...
5) The Christian Assyrians are opressed in their homeland and also stateless
How to solve the problems:
1) Give the Kurds their national homeland: Kurdistan
2) Give Palestinians national borders: Gaza + West Bank
3) Remove dictators and "kings" and other biggots who are holding countries down - like the generals in Turkey and the Mullahs in Iran... Give the people a free choice to decide their own future...
4) Give the Assyrians their national homeland: Assyria
Conclusion: The Middle East is in deep shit - because the problems are never-ending...
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:46 pmRumtaya wrote:The future of the Middle East?
That is a big question...
And the answer is not simple... But the fact is, that it is turning more fascist and more hateful...
The state-governments may be growing softer - but the people are turning to right-wing and islamo-fascist ideologies...
In Turkey there is a rise in popular support for the MHP and ethnic nationalism... And as Turkish fascism grows - Kurdish national awareness also increases and it looks like we are going for a BIG clash between the two ideologies... Islamists are building their own fort too - but they remain crippled as long as the generals are sitting around the table... We might be in for another Coup the way things are going now...
In Egypt, the islamists are slowly winning ground - and the
Muslim Brotherhood party is already a force to be reconed with... Mubarak's son seems the likely heir to the throne - and will most definetly be given hegemony like his father had and still has...
Iran is stagnating - the mullahs are eating up the liver of the country and are making their own people suffer, while they aid Hezbollah, Hamas and the Al-Qaeeda with guns and amunition... It's own people is starving while they are building guns for the Palestinians to continue the bloodshed with Israel... It's building nuclear bombs... What for? To bomb Israel? The USA?
Iraq is in a state of civil war and there is only one way out; balkanization - it will in the long run, be the best policy - since Kurds can't be under Arab rule, and since Shia and Sunni in Iraq can't get a long - and keep bombing and murdering eachother...
Syria is under great pressure from all sides - only friend it has now, is Turkey - which is only interested in cooperating with Syria and Iran because it wants to oppress the Kurds...
So basically, there are four major problems in the Middle East:
1) The Kurds are still stateless
2) Islamists are gaining popular support
3) Palestine has still not been given national borders
4) Right-wing fascists are growing in numbers...
5) The Christian Assyrians are opressed in their homeland and also stateless
How to solve the problems:
1) Give the Kurds their national homeland: Kurdistan
2) Give Palestinians national borders: Gaza + West Bank
3) Remove dictators and "kings" and other biggots who are holding countries down - like the generals in Turkey and the Mullahs in Iran... Give the people a free choice to decide their own future...
4) Give the Assyrians their national homeland: Assyria
Conclusion: The Middle East is in deep shit - because the problems are never-ending...
Yeah... Every stateless nation must be given stathood...Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:15 pmnot iranic at least or khomeyni shit
dont be sure about it. Excluding Turkey, every country at middle east may fall iranian hegomony.
If iraq fall to iran, than we will have much problem.
Pro iran iraq, syria, lebanon, and a defeated USA is not best alternative I prefer.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:33 pmmiddle east must be protected by iranic shit come into the countries 
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:30 amThe Middle East has a very uncertain future in my opinion. While some countries are advancing, the big players are going backwards. Israel and the emirates have booming economies, but Syria, Iran, Turkey, etc. are falling under the sway of ethnic and Islamic fascism. I would not be surprised if we see a regional war within the next decade.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:30 pmI was thinking about having the Gaza Strip renamed as "Al Gaza."
A good idea is to form a federal states in the middle east.
The United States of the Levant
States: Sinai from Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine (West Bank), Israel, Al Gaza (trust me you don't want any exclaves), Golan Heights (from Syria), the coastal Syrian states of Latakia and Tartous, and Hatay of Turkey.
The Sinai from Egypt will encompass the Bedouin people.
Palestine will encompass the people of the West Bank.
Lebanon will encompass the Lebonese.
Al Gaza will encompass the Palestinian people of the Gaza Strip. Since the Gaza Strip does not encompass a true identity of its own. It should be an open liberal area of Bedouin, Israeli, and Palestinian influence till it can grow an identity of its own.
Israel will encompass the Israeli people.
Golan Heights will encompass the Druze population.
Hatay will encompass the Arabic minority of Turkey.
Latakia and Tartous will be individual states that will encompass the Syrian Arabs. Of course this area will be welcomed into forming its own government seperate from the Syrian Regime.
Eventually when the rest of Syria and the state of Jordan decide to join they will have to submit their governments and people to the democratic standards of a united Levant rather than an oppressed Levant.
The government should encompass a tricameral legislation, a semi-presidential executive, an elected independent judicial, a community-based electorial branch, and a overseeing constitutional branch to insure that the other branches are doing their jobs and not abusing their powers to oppress the populace.
Kurdistan should be based on a similar model by uniting it self with the Zaza, Assyrian, Iraqi Turkmen and other people that live in the area North East of the Levant. Perhaps they should call their state by a different name that can signifyied that entire region.
A good idea is to form a federal states in the middle east.
The United States of the Levant
States: Sinai from Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine (West Bank), Israel, Al Gaza (trust me you don't want any exclaves), Golan Heights (from Syria), the coastal Syrian states of Latakia and Tartous, and Hatay of Turkey.
The Sinai from Egypt will encompass the Bedouin people.
Palestine will encompass the people of the West Bank.
Lebanon will encompass the Lebonese.
Al Gaza will encompass the Palestinian people of the Gaza Strip. Since the Gaza Strip does not encompass a true identity of its own. It should be an open liberal area of Bedouin, Israeli, and Palestinian influence till it can grow an identity of its own.
Israel will encompass the Israeli people.
Golan Heights will encompass the Druze population.
Hatay will encompass the Arabic minority of Turkey.
Latakia and Tartous will be individual states that will encompass the Syrian Arabs. Of course this area will be welcomed into forming its own government seperate from the Syrian Regime.
Eventually when the rest of Syria and the state of Jordan decide to join they will have to submit their governments and people to the democratic standards of a united Levant rather than an oppressed Levant.
The government should encompass a tricameral legislation, a semi-presidential executive, an elected independent judicial, a community-based electorial branch, and a overseeing constitutional branch to insure that the other branches are doing their jobs and not abusing their powers to oppress the populace.
Kurdistan should be based on a similar model by uniting it self with the Zaza, Assyrian, Iraqi Turkmen and other people that live in the area North East of the Levant. Perhaps they should call their state by a different name that can signifyied that entire region.