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where is tajikestan ?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:48 pm
Author: dyaoko
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who are tajiks ?
where is tajikestan?
are they a kind of mingol ? (as turks are ?)
why their flag is simmilar to kurds flag?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:16 pm
Author: Diri
Tajikistan is just North east of Afganistan - it is a EX-Iranian people with STRONG Turkic influence - the ONLY thing they kept from their Arian roots is their language... They speak a moderation of Persian. And they see themselves as Persian - Their Persian is an OLDER version of Persian... It's not the same as modern Persian spoken in Iran! :)

Tajikistan also borders to CHina in the East - Kyrgyzistan in North and Afghanistan in South while it's Kazakistan and Uzbekistan in West...

The reason why they have a flag similar to us is that ALL Arian peoples have ONE type of flag - All West European countries have a similar flag - all Scandinavian countries have a similra flag and so on..

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:01 pm
Author: dyaoko
wow diri you have good infromation ...yeah you are right, i remember their president came to iran...they spoke some farsi with khatami...yeah I remember now ! :)

they have a famous poet ...that I forogot his name...all of his poems are in persian...
so nice that we aryans all have the same flags...

yeah and arabs all have A BLACK color as their national color :wink:

...what about afghans ? are afghans aryan too ?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:24 pm
Author: Diri
These are Arian:

Kurds ( We were Caucasian before - and we have our culture based on the caucasian culture of Hurrian culture)
Persians
Scythians
Bextarani
Sistani - and all other peoples in Iran except the Azeri - they are mongol..same as Turks..
Belochi
Pakistani
Tajiki
Some Indian peoples
and thats about it I guess... oh - and in afghanistan there are MANY peoples so all of them may not be Arian - some maye be Mongol like turks..


And you are right about aArab flags - ALWAYS black white and green or red...
and same broing strips...


wow diri you have good infromation


Well - My name is Diri - Diri BOND! :P hahaha....

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:32 pm
Author: Vladimir
And what about my country :cry:

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:48 pm
Author: dyaoko
oh yea vladimir , somtimes i really forget that you are not kurd .

he he i see you really kurd, I never see you as dutch :wink:
well common please tell us a bit aboout your country...Holand !

all I know about holand is that "they are all tall peopel with ligth brown hair"

not anymore..

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:28 pm
Author: Diri
The Dutch have a notorious history as the oppressors in many cases... Look at South Africa - The people who invaded the Africans there were Dutch - The apartheid system has fallen - but Africans are still second class citizen...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:54 pm
Author: Vladimir
No rich country haves a clean history. They are rich, because they robbed other countries. But I don't feel responsible for those guys. :wink
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My mother used to help in Papua New Guinea in the time of "war" with Indonesia. Indonesia decleared indepence, what did they do?? They claimed the country of the Papua people, one part is of Australia now and one part is of New Guinea. But the people with the "western" oppressors are more free now then by the Indonesian ones.

They changed from oppressed people in oppressors themselves. Now those people there want independence. Please do not ever let that happen if the Kurds ever get their independence.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:13 am
Author: Diri
I promise that I will (If Kurdistan is independent) go and blow up the parliament (without people in it of course - I will give a warning like EFTA :D ) if Kurdistan turns into a Tyrany - that is if ANY of our leaders want to play cool guy and go and rob the Kurds of their freedom!

You are ABSOLUTLY RIGHT WELATÊMÎR! EUROPE SUCKS! I truly HATE what has been done in the name of profit... And what suffering - but for what? Some oil into Britain and Frances pockets...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:27 am
Author: Kurdi
Sorry this is an old thread but I just couldn't help it:

Diri wrote:Tajikistan is just North east of Afganistan - it is a EX-Iranian people with STRONG Turkic influence - the ONLY thing they kept from their Arian roots is their language... They speak a moderation of Persian.


Diri, you have some vague disinformation on Tajikistan, as I have suspected, your brain has been corrupted and brainwashed by pan-tukish propaganda, the same people who think Kurds are nothing but lost turks. The only turkic people in Tajikistan are Uzbeks who constitute 25% of the population. The rest are Tajiks and mainly of Iranian origin, they are not EX-iranian as you for some reason have indicated, indirectly made the day for a pan-turk bastard. If you go to Tajikistan and look at the Tajiks you won't find any signs of Mongolian blood in most of them. Even the Uzbeks look like Iranians. Here look at these pictures and judge yourself: (damn it how do you upload pictures on here???), anyway, If you think of it everybody in this world are mixed, and you have for some reason think tajiks are no more iranian, or IRANIC rather. Why don't you start saying that we are arabs since we are all mixed with arabs or turks??? get the picture.

[/ quote]And they see themselves as Persian - Their Persian is an OLDER version of Persian... It's not the same as modern Persian spoken in Iran! :)

Wrong, Tajiks are persians; only have different accents. Same with kurds, each region has its own accents. The term Tajik is used for central asian persians. You're probably thinking of Afghani persians who speak Dari, which is an "undeveloped" persian, meaning an older version. and why do you have ":)" at the end, seems you really hate Iranian persians.

Tajikistan also borders to CHina in the East - Kyrgyzistan in North and Afghanistan in South while it's Kazakistan and Uzbekistan in West...


yes that is right...

the reason why they have a flag similar to us is that ALL Arian peoples have ONE type of flag - All West European countries have a similar flag - all Scandinavian countries have a similra flag and so on..


you have contradicted yourself here, once you say they are not Arian, and now here you say they are! The term "Arian" is an inacurate and ignorant word used by faggot Germans and Westerners. There is not such thing as Arian race, well not anymore. They are IRANIAN, or IRANIC rather. We kurds are IRANIC, same with Afghanis and Tajiks. If your going to be and arian-obsessed kid, then you might as well declare that Indians are our relatives, all the way to Sri-lanka, because they all speak Indo-Iranian languages, but we speak an Iranian language same with the Tajiks.
Flags are not always one type for us. Afghans have a flag not so similar to ours.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:59 pm
Author: ellinas
hey Vladimir! from 18 to 27 August i will am in Amsterdam! WoW!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:18 pm
Author: Diri
To think that you based all your words on ONE thing that YOU misunderstood... :)

By saying "Ex" I didn't mean they weren't Iranian... Dumbass - Then why would I call them Arian?

Groundless accusations... And no... You can be an Arab, Turk or Persian if you like... I will remain the Kurd I have always been... Since the dawn of time! (Just in case your brain doesn't upload this type of wording I will explain to you that - This isn't a fact - it is a nationalist statement that you didn't learn, you and your persian brothers)...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:29 pm
Author: Kurdi
Diri wrote:By saying "Ex" I didn't mean they weren't Iranian... Dumbass - Then why would I call them Arian?


Diri, my dear, by saying "Ex", you are specifiying that they used to be iranian and no longer are iranians. that is a language problem then, your english is pretty good tho, try to remember this one as well, so you won't have others like me misunderstood at your comments.

Groundless accusations... And no... You can be an Arab, Turk or Persian if you like... I will remain the Kurd I have always been... Since the dawn of time!


I don't think you got the picture diri, I'm a kurd, and you're a kurd so whats the problem, did I say that you're an arab, please read what I said before to really understand what i was saying.

(Just in case your brain doesn't upload this type of wording I will explain to you that - This isn't a fact - it is a nationalist statement that you didn't learn, you and your persian brothers)...


I dont care if your a nationalist, thats your business, all I was doing was to educate you on Tajikistan which you had your information distourted.

first, by saying that large Turkic influence was imposed on them is false.
here, let me educate you more on Tajikistan and its people, and also on central asian turkic people.
my brother, tajiks are iranian (the more accurate word now is IRANIC) and their culture is iranian. central asian people have the same culture, same religion, and their culture is Iranian (mainly persian, surely there are turkic influences there), and their religion is primary sonni Islam.
as a british historian and anthropologists put it, central asian people have the same culture and heritage, ONLY their language devides them. these people always regarded each other as one, but then the russian and soviets came and changed all that. artificial borders were set and people of central asia became divided.
I'm not making this up, all i am providing you are facts. and i dont know how you got the idea that im against being kurd.

and one more thing, stop refering to us and other iranians as ARIANS.
there is no such thing as arians anymore, that was 5000 years ago, and even by the time the aryan tribes migrated to the area, they were already mixed with caucasian people. there is no arian race diri, and all others here, arian is just history. its like saying that dinasours still exist.

Diri, Im just correcting you on the information, dont get all nationalistic on me, because this is not the place for it, not this thread!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:38 pm
Author: Vladimir
Iranians are also the past and their culture is NOT similar to the Kurds. They are not extremists like the Persian Shia and all culture which has to do with the Iranian Shia extremists.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:09 pm
Author: Diri
I didn't read your post just so you know... I read the two first lines and the one last line...


And from that I will answer that you need to go and check your brain at the door... This thread is what? Two months old??? I am sorry but I am well over this thread and have nothing more to say here... And about my English - it sure beats yours... :roll:

My STYLE has changed... And so will it - forever and ever - next month I will be writting in a new way and maybe feel allianated by what I wrote now... Well - except for posts where I have to set things straight... But believe me - I don't think that this Forum is a place for you to do personal attacks - so you can cut the crap and start talking about the subject instead...

I have washed my hands clean of this Tajikistan talk and will not discuss it with a brainwashed Kurd like you (if you are a Kurd - "Kurdi") By the way - for somebody who has become the Persian doormat - shouldn't you call yourself "koordi", or maybe you could do "koooooooord" instead? :lol: