ideas wrote:Sorry I dont mean to be rude, but what do you mean by balochistani kurd? so, are you kurdish or what?
Kak Ideas , here is something you might enjoy reading about Baloch Nation .History is fiction agreed upon"
" Most of our actions and our conduct is before the people, be they good or bad; the people can decide for themselves; and then again the events presently unfolding speak for themselves about the past, the present and possibly the future."
Shaheed-e-Watan Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti, former Governor and Chief Minister of Balochistan. October 18, 1982
The racial origin of the Baloch is shrouded in mystery connect the Baloch to Babylon or near about, the some of our aging would be historians Endeavour to connect the Baloch to Babylon or near about; this is because their own pre-conceived ideas and prejudices. They would like us to belong to a nation or people who have left mark of glory and renown on human history, with the memory of false pride in a grand progenitor. With this end in view they try invent myths. That the Baloch are descendants from the Chaldeans, from the god BAAL (the earth into whose bosom all Babylonians returned after death) and from Nimrod-but he had no descendants, how could he? He is mythical character.
I cannot understand why they shy away from the fact that the Baloch as a national group does not find mention in and any history prior to the edvent of the Christian ear, and they never set up any empire nor made conquests of any consequence. At the most they must have been simple nomads and pastoral people who led an uncomplicated life roaming the vest steppes of Central Asia in search of substance.
All the bits and pieces of evidence available to us regarding the Baloch point to Aryan stock. Their language, culture, custom and habits: traditions of living and fighting, and other rites which are common to the Aryan.
The Kurds and Medes have much in common with the Baloch, and its is said they are the same racial and linguistic group. The Kurdishi (Kurd) were a section of the people indentified in history as Medes, Aryan tribes that had entered Iran from the North, reached their zenith in the late seventh century B.C....Merged wit the great Achaemenian Empire of Kurdish (Cyrus) the great and thereafter retained something near original indemnity in the mountain of western Iran. They are an Aryan people.The language, culture, customs and habits of the Baloch and Kurd are similar. There are many branches of Baloch clans which from parts of the Kurd nation and vice versa, for example: Baloch ----------------
Kurd Bugti------------------- Boghti
Marri ----------------- Dola Marri
Mamshhal ----------------- Mamash
Kalpur -------------------- Kalpur
Baazdani ------------------------- Barazani
Keerd ----------------------- Kurd
Brahoi -------- ---------------------- Brahushi
Scores of small national groups, people like the Baloch have left no major imprint on the sands of time. The Baloch find
mention for the first time in the Shahnama of the Firdausi during the period of the Sassanid Dynasty (22-651 A.D). But the Shahnama cannot claim to be history and this much is certain the nomadic Baloch did exist as an organized body in the time of Nausherawan (Aadil0), as referred to by Firdausi.
Nomadism is just as recent and just as highly developed condition as civilization. The tribe was a big family; the Nation a group of tribal families; as household often contained hundreds of people.
These people were not congregated in cities but in districts of pasturage, as clan and tribal communities. They formed loose leagues for mutual help under chosen leader; they had centers where they could come, together with their herds, in time of danger.
At their feasts, of great importance in their time and still more important to the historian, were certain poets, singers of songs and stories, the bards or rhapsodists. These bards existed among all the Aryan-speaking peoples: they were consequence of and futher human advances made in Neolithic times. They chanted or recited stories of the past, of war bravery and death, or stories of the living Chief and his people: they found and seized upon and improved the rhythms, rhythms, alliterations, and such- like possibilities latent in language: they probably did much to elaborate and fix grammatical forms. They were perhaps the first great artists of the ear, and the order and sweetness and power of language was their primary concern.
These bards mark a new step forward in the power and range of the human mind. They sustained and developed in men's minds a sense of a greater something than themselves, the tribe, about its taboos and why they had to be, about the world and the why for the world.
A tribal mind came in existence, a tradition, and of a life that extended back into the past. They not only recalled old haltered and battles, they recalled old alliances and a common inheritance. The feats of dead heroes lived again, as it does even today. The Baloch Aryan began to live in thought before they were born and after they were dead.
In their hands language became as beautiful as it is ever likely to be. These bards were living books, man histories, guardians and makers of a new more and more powerful tradition in human life. Every Aryan people had its long poetical records thus handed down; its sagas (Teutonic). It's Epics (Greek), its Vedantic narrative poems (old Sanskrit). Its Shahnama (Persians), its Heroic and nomadic ballads (classical Balochi).
The sounds pattern of Balochi poetry is exuistie and charms the lister. Few languages can boast of a vocal structure as congenial to poetry as Balochi…..
The traditional recorded history of the Baloch begins from their Chief, Mir Jalahan(12th century A.D). Who with his forty four Bolaks were spread over between Kirman, Sistan, Bandar Abbas and Bampur. Later, under Mir Shaihak, the bulk of the core moved towards Makuran, and finally under Mir Chakar in the 15th century, once again they moved by different routes, over-running and setting on the greater parts of Balochistan. Mir Chakar at th head of the Rinds enetered the plains of Kachhi and took Sevi, while Mir Gowharam with his Lasharis established himself at the Gandawah, Sevi became the Baloch capital with Mir Chakar as the head of the Baloch confederacy.
Mir Shaihak, and later Mir Chaker build their political and military power around the Rind nucleus..The chakarian age was an age of romance, literary culture, chivalry and heroic deeds: poetry and song, of conflicts and wars: and yet that age saw the end national unity greatness; but, for the time being.
"History:, said Bacon, " is the planks of shipwreck: more of the past is lost than has saved". We console ourselves with the thought that as the individual memory must forget the great part of experience in order to be sane, so the race has preserved in its heritage only the most vivid and impressive-or is it only the best recorded? of its cultural experiments.
Baalach Goregage's courage was of a sterner kind. He is the "First Baloch Guerrilla" he is the personification of all that is Baloch and Balochiat, and Baloch of all ages aspire to emulate..Despite the fact we (Baloch) have left no great name in past history, nor have been anywhere great; our people and their leaders kept to themselves; simple folk, with their flocks migrating with the seasons from place to place (within the radius of their homeland) in search of fresh pasture; paying tribute to none; and most important, we have kept intact our own distinct identity; our own exclusiveness, to this day.
If you go to Delhi or other parts, you will not find Turks, Khiljis, Lodis, Mongols, Suris, Mughuls, ets: in any compact area they could call their own, or where they are a national group with a national identify. They have assimilated and merged completely, without a language and culture of their own, and most would not know their origin.
We (Baloch) may not be united in all our ideas, but we are united otherwise as Baloch, as a people, and this consciousness is increasing, and that is the legacy, that is the heritage left to us by Mir Jalalhan, Shaikhak, Chakar, Gowaharam, Biveragh, Jaro, Mirhan, Nozbandagh, Rayhan, Ramain, Hammal and Baalach. The Baloch heritage, which is most precious to us; which many people do not have; which many people in past history have lost completely; which we have, and that is what counts. The Baloch have not become any "-Ised" they were and they remain Baloch.
In conflict, leaders must subdue other or be subdued himself. When Genghis Khan's descendents took up permanent residence in China along with a certain number of Mongols and others, they had in fact shifted from their base and their home land; as such they could not maintain their rule nor themselves for long on foreign soil. Finally, when these great conquering people became "Ised" they lost every-thing, were subdued and became the conquered.
Nadir Shah of Persia and Ahamad Shah Abdali of Afghanistan, in the recent past took Delhi for short periods, but then were obliged to withdraw back to their own base-areas, their homelands, were they continued. Those that were left being in India were merged with the teeming masses of of the Indian populations and became" Indian-Ised"
Nadir Shah and Ahamed Shah could not maintain "nation-states" in India, where they had no base of their own, except their soldiery. Both lost Delhi and their empires, but the Iranians and Afghans continue to have their own identity and their own rule within the geographical boundaries of their respective countries, which was and is their home-base.
The British conquered and ruled over nearly one fourth of the globe, and it was said at he time: "the sun never sets over the British Empire" but eventually as nationalism took hold of the peoples' minds and there was political awakening, the British were made to withdraw and return their own base, their own country, England; which had been their home-land for centuries; where they continue to rule themselves, with their own language, culture, customs, and traditions intact and under their own laws and social conditions. Today it is said that "the sun never rises on the British Isles"
Likewise, any people who aspire to over-awe others because of their temporary weakness, and colonize or rule over them against their will; eventually after a period of time and under changed circumstances, that rule is over-thrown, and people come into its own…… Let us before we die, gather up our heritage, and offer it to our children.
This article is from Lecturer, Aziz Mohammed Bugti, Book about the Personalities of Balochistan