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Norway attack

I guess those you support terrorism can't even condemn this. Allah bless her soul.

shame on all terrorist everywhere , no matter if they do it in the name of islamic allah or christian god or because of racism .

no matter if they do it in the name of Hitler or in the name of Ataturk , no matter if they are Islamist or Nazist or Gray Wovles .

shame on all those who think, one single relligion, ideology , language or ethinc is superior to others ,
shame on all those who think there should be one Ethnic, or one Language one Flag or one religion , one ideology ...

yes shame on all of them.

Djembe wrote:Norway attack

I guess those you support terrorism can't even condemn this. Allah bless her soul.

Did I miss something here ? Do we have someone here who support terrorisim ?

If you are refering to PKK and their supporters here then by " definition" you are a supporter of terrorist state .We can accept your views regarding the militarized way the Kurds are trying to get their rights , because you are taught so and certainly you have all the right to express them freely and so do the kurds .

We can go in circle all day long labeling each othere such and such , but it will not change the facts as "We" and "You" see it . A compromise is needed and the ball has been in the tukish yard for a very long time .

While the death of every human is regretable , killing someone who come to your land for the sole purpose of killing you is pure self defence and it is not even debatable .

talsor wrote:

Djembe wrote:Norway attack

I guess those you support terrorism can't even condemn this. Allah bless her soul.

Did I miss something here ? Do we have someone here who support terrorisim ?

If you are refering to PKK and their supporters here then by " definition" you are a supporter of terrorist state .We can accept your views regarding the militarized way the Kurds are trying to get their rights , because you are taught so and certainly you have all the right to express them freely and so do the kurds .

We can go in circle all day long labeling each othere such and such , but it will not change the facts as "We" and "You" see it . A compromise is needed and the ball has been in the tukish yard for a very long time .

While the death of every human is regretable , killing someone who come to your land for the sole purpose of killing you is pure self defence and it is not even debatable .

PKK is a terrorist organization. Turkey is not a terrorist state. It is legit for state to have security forces. Turkey does not kill civilian Kurdish people. They kill PKK membes and that is legit. Kurdish have 36 BDP members in the parliament. AKP has more than 50 Kurdish members in the parliament. There is a political platform and PKK is choosing violence, therefore PKK is no different from this dude in Norway.

Even tactic is not fair. Turkish army legitimately presence in the region as a security force in terms of rules of engagement in violent conflict. Most PKK attacks are cowardly organized. Either sniper shoots from the back, or road-side mind, bombing. You can't compare cowardice act with a legit state. Turkish army has a law, regulations. It is recognized by the international community. It has sovereign rights. PKK is illegal.

Djembe wrote:PKK is a terrorist organization.

And Hamas ?

Djembe wrote:Turkey is not a terrorist state.

But Israel is, right?

Kurdikon wrote:

Djembe wrote:PKK is a terrorist organization.

And Hamas ?

Djembe wrote:Turkey is not a terrorist state.

But Israel is, right?

Turkey/PKK and Israel/Hamas very different.

1. Gaza is NOT in Israel territory. It is blockade by Israel.
2. Northern Kurdistan is Turkey territory with its sovereign rights.
3. Turkey does not kill civilian Kurdish. They killed terrorists.
4. Israel kills civilians. I.e. the nuclear scientist was assassinated in Iran. countless Palestine politician assassinated.
5. Hamas does not political platform
6. Kurds in Turkey has 36 members of parliament from BDP, many Kurdish members from AKP. Almost all of the local government in N.Kurdistan is Kurdish.

Djembe wrote:

Kurdikon wrote:

Djembe wrote:PKK is a terrorist organization.

And Hamas ?

Djembe wrote:Turkey is not a terrorist state.

But Israel is, right?

Turkey/PKK and Israel/Hamas very different.

1. Gaza is NOT in Israel territory. It is blockade by Israel.
2. Northern Kurdistan is Turkey territory with its sovereign rights.
3. Turkey does not kill civilian Kurdish. They killed terrorists.
4. Israel kills civilians. I.e. the nuclear scientist was assassinated in Iran. countless Palestine politician assassinated.
5. Hamas does not political platform
6. Kurds in Turkey has 36 members of parliament from BDP, many Kurdish members from AKP. Almost all of the local government in N.Kurdistan is Kurdish.

What do you say, that Hamas is not a terror organization but the PKK is?
In the last terror attack against Israeli civilians five members of the same family were murdered in their beds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_attack). And you don't think that those who stabbed the knife into the sleeping toddler's body are terrorists, right?
I guess the PKK did much horrible acts to deserve to be called a terror organization, right? Can you produce some evidence of such terror attacks perpetrated by the PKK, as for instance, stabbing the heart of a toddler (not yet a terror act), removing it, and eating it (now it is).

How do you know that the nuclear scientist was assassinated by Israel? Are you the Prime Minister of Israel? Where did you get this information, probably from PressTV, no?

Turks have a history. Ask the Armenians if you don't believe me.

Of course Turks kill Kurdish civilians, and often in the most horrible way, including the destruction of whole Kurdish cities. Turks take the most horrible and brutal measures to suppress the Kurdish aspiration for self-determination. The Internet is full of information about the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Turks.

I guess you support the creation of a "Palestinian" state, no?

Do you also support the creation of a Kurdish state? No... Why not?

Djembe wrote:PKK is a terrorist organization. Turkey is not a terrorist state.

In your mind certainly , but for us the your statement is reversed .

Djembe wrote: It is legit for state to have security forces. Turkey does not kill civilian Kurdish people. They kill PKK membes and that is legit. Kurdish have 36 BDP members in the parliament. AKP has more than 50 Kurdish members in the parliament. There is a political platform n

It is legit for Kurds to defend themselves and their land by any mean possible and your statement about turkey not killing civilian is laughable and shows clear lack of knowllege in your how history . Turkey in our view as Kurds is a terrorist state and Kurds/PKK have all the right to kill any turkish soldier entering Kurdistan to kill or oppress Kurds .
There is no such thing as political platform in a terrorist state like turkey and since when turkey became such a democratic state to have a platform , frankly it is a Joke .
With 36 BDP half in jail and half waiting to go to jail and 50 Kurdish MPs with AkP as you claim and Yet We can not teach our children in our own language . Do you see the Irony in that and how fake the system is ?.

Djembe wrote:PKK is choosing violence, therefore PKK is no different from this dude in Norway.

Action , reaction !! did you miss that in high school ? You have to blame those who initiated the violence in the first place .

Djembe wrote:Even tactic is not fair.

you mean successful and since when there is Fair in war !

Djembe wrote:Turkish army legitimately presence in the region as a security force in terms of rules of engagement in violent conflict.

Legitimat by your understanding , but for Kurds , the turkish army is nothing more than an occupying force of Kurdistan .

Djembe wrote:Most PKK attacks are cowardly organized. Either sniper shoots from the back, or road-side mind, bombing. You can't compare cowardice act with a legit state. Turkish army has a law, regulations. It is recognized by the international community. It has sovereign rights. PKK is illegal.

You gotta be fair here . For someone to fight the 5th( I think) biggest Nato power in the region and be successful indicate really BIG BIG COJONES with all do respect to the Female peshmergas .



Turkish army has law ,,,yep

alexander rybak (the winner of eurovision 2009) sang a song for her in the city i live in . almost the whole city was there(im a kurd living in norway for those of you who dont know )
almost all the victims were 20 and under (years). so they were all young/kids. may their soul rest in peace

That photo is not genuine. It is made up.

How do you know that the nuclear scientist was assassinated by Israel? Are you the Prime Minister of Israel? Where did you get this information, probably from PressTV, no?

Who else did it. Even Deutshe velle reported it today and Barak has confirmed with the body language.

Djembe wrote:That photo is not genuine. It is made up.

Funny thing is that the above photo was publish by a turkish news paper , but I could do this all night long . Frankly you have no clue what a terrorist state turkey is and what is it doing to Kurds for simply being kurds .I have plenty more , but they are too graphic to be posted here .


Warnning , Graphic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ7szQ-s2aM&NR=1&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPlLY8ViPvE&NR=1&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJO7ylNJ_6U&NR=1&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

Djembe wrote:That photo is not genuine. It is made up.

Prove it.

What's about these photos???





Turks seem to be fond of beheading people...

The United Nations Human Rights Council must appoint a Goldstone investigation into Turkish war crimes, starting with the horrendous crimes committed against the Kurds, the terrible use of chemical weapons on Kurdish people, and then attempting to cover up this heinous crime by ripping the bodies to pieces. Turkey must pay for her crimes. It should also recognize the rights of the Kurdish people to self-determination. It is inevitable that Turkey will diminish one day, and a Kurdish state be created. Turkey won't evade justice for long.

Djembe wrote:

How do you know that the nuclear scientist was assassinated by Israel? Are you the Prime Minister of Israel? Where did you get this information, probably from PressTV, no?

Who else did it. Even Deutshe velle reported it today and Barak has confirmed with the body language.

Your claim is baseless. You should prove it.

Its seems terrorist Turks love beheading and seems al qayda has learnt alit from Turks