my religion is Kurdistan

[veanandjean]

My country as in the land of Kurdistan is very important to me. Kurdistan now has the oldest structure in the world. I do believe that Kurdish people were the first humans in Kurdistan. The Kurds have lived in Kurdistan for so long that our genes are inclined towards the land. A Kurdish person who leaves Kurdistan will eventually die. Or be depressed. I love Kurdish people. I love Kurdish people very very much. I love Kurds irrigardless of their religion. I also love Kurdishness as well (the act of being Kurdish).

For Me personaly my religion and my love and my admiration is Kurdistan. To serve Kurdistan and to serve Kurdish people that's all I want. Kurdistan is more important that life itself. Loving Kurdish people and Kurdistan is my faith. My prayer is 'god please free Kurdistan'. i serve god by loving Kurdistan and Kurdish people. Its because Kurdistan is a part of my soul and a part of my body. Believe me I love my land and I will never let it go ever. i pray to my flag


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As I was reading through Kurdish history I discovered something fascinating and boggling.
What I learned in highschool:
The original migration of the indo-Aryan people started in the caucus mountains between the mediterean sea and the black sea. They had two languages. One language was spoken and the other language was memorized for their religion and was never written down. The migrated in a large arc all the way to India. The created the caste system in India (though conserversial) and also aided in the forming of the Hindu religion (very conserversial). They say that it is uncertain what happened after that but most likely they stayed in India.
Yezidi people:
The Yezidi people also have a cast system. Their religion is so old, much much older than the zorodeshti religion and zorodesht was born around 6184 BC. The Yezidi people claim that they came from India. They don't have any scriptures, their religion is based upon thier race and also the Aryan migrations are evident because only the Northern parts of the countries between india and Kurdistan appear to have indo aryan languages and appearences. I believe that the Yezidi people were the Indo Aryan migrants. It makes sense that they started from the caucus mountains and came back to the caucus moutains making a full circle.
We do know that Kurdish people are Aryan. There are other Kurdish religions such as Zorastrianism and a few others.
The semetic religions are Islam, Christianity, and Judiasm. All these religions are relics and copies of the Zoradesht religion. The yezidi religion is so secretive it would not be possible to copy from them. The Zoradesht religion similar in their creation story to the yezidi religion because Zorodesht was Kurdish from west Iran and he was born into a Yezidis family. you can look this up online. I feel that the semetic religions were made up because they were jealous and fearful of the Indo Aryans tribes. However jesus was Armanic. anyway
The dominant religion currently among most Kurds is islam. this came to be from the Turkish islamification. My family converted to islam in this way: The Turkish people came and killed those who refused to be Muslim, my greatgrandfather's aunts hid him inside a cuboard when the Turks came and he was safe. The second wave came almost 30 years later. He was married with 2 children 1 years old and 7 years old. The Turks killed him and his wife in front of the children and they took the children and raised them as muslims. most conversions were bloody or disturbing. I can never accept a religion from the Turks or made by Arabs.

[brendar]

Finally, there is someone who has the courage to say the true facts. I personally thank you veanandjean. We should not be following arabs and turks or persian religions. However, my religion is KURDISTAN AND ONLY KURDISTAN as well.....as it says in the Ey Raqib....Dînman, ayînman her nishteman.

[jjmuneer]

Wrong, were not indo-Aryan. Indo Aryans were from North west India, they were a bracnh of the indo-iranians. Second Zorastriainism isn't a Kurdish religon. Mithriaism is. Thirdly I'm not leaving Islam because you told me to. I don't give a crap about what other people do. Am I blowing up buildings and raping women? NO.

[brendar]

Wrong, were not indo-Aryan. Indo Aryans were from North west India, they were a bracnh of the indo-iranians. Second Zorastriainism isn't a Kurdish religon. Mithriaism is. Thirdly I'm not leaving Islam because you told me to. I don't give a crap about what other people do. Am I blowing up buildings and raping women? NO.

Basically, i would appreciate to have a religion of my own as well, just like arabs and others. I will ask you some questions?

Why should i follow islam where god says nothing about my people!!!!!!

Does ALLA mentions anything about kurds in quran?
Did ALLA send quran in kurdish?
Isnt mohamad arab?
Isnt islam arab religion?
isn't quran sent by ALLA to the arabs to stop the consequences between them?
Dont you know that ALLA is arab? thats what arabs say!
Then what is islam got to do with kurds?

if muslims people are really really muslims and they follow the quran seriously then, the world will be destroyed into pieces not peace, because in the quran it says "kill non muslims".....there are other things but i dont want to mention because i think we kurds know whats in the quran morethan anyone on this earth...but we deny it and lie to ourselves

[jjmuneer]

Wrong, were not indo-Aryan. Indo Aryans were from North west India, they were a bracnh of the indo-iranians. Second Zorastriainism isn't a Kurdish religon. Mithriaism is. Thirdly I'm not leaving Islam because you told me to. I don't give a crap about what other people do. Am I blowing up buildings and raping women? NO.

Basically, i would appreciate to have a religion of my own as well, just like arabs and others. I will ask you some questions?

Why should i follow islam where god says nothing about my people!!!!!!

Does ALLA mentions anything about kurds in quran?
Did ALLA send quran in kurdish?
Isnt mohamad arab?
Isnt islam arab religion?
isn't quran sent by ALLA to the arabs to stop the consequences between them?
Dont you know that ALLA is arab? thats what arabs say!
Then what is islam got to do with kurds?

if muslims people are really really muslims and they follow the quran seriously then, the world will be destroyed into pieces not peace, because in the quran it says "kill non muslims".....there are other things but i dont want to mention because i think we kurds know whats in the quran morethan anyone on this earth...but we deny it and lie to ourselves

I don't know if your a Kurd or a troll, I never said you should follow Islam, I just feel offended that your attacking it. The majority of Kurds don't behave like that. The fact you think we were all Zoroastrians is also funny, thats just Persian propaganda.

[kurdistanis1]

I also don't get why some Kurds like to disrespect islam so much, or try to make a point about Kurds being zarostani thousands of years ago, that religion really isn't Kurdish either. What does being muslim have to do with being Kurdish? all the great leaders we have had, were devoted Muslims and they accomplished the most. I hate, when some of us try to please westerners by talking smack about islam and muslims, like the westerns will actually make a difference between us and the rest of middle east.

Islam is the religion of choice for Kurds and it will be for a very long time.

[Rando]

i agree with jjmunneer and kurdistanis 1. Islam IS a peaceful religion,its only western propeganda who make the religion look like the devils religion. these "terror" groups,al-qaida and such,are all made and supplied by US,and we (muslims) get blaimed for helping and supporting them even tough we have no contact with them.we get blaimed only cuz we have the same religion as them...

[veanandjean]

Islam is peaceful? that's a joke. REally a joke. Non of those semetic religions are peaceful. Kurds are aryan. You can go look up the migration maps and also the classificatins. Im not spitting out western prapaganda. Most Americans accept Islam. Its me who cannot accept
1.I cannot accept that Kurds fight eacher other because of religions. For me religion comes second to Kurdistan and Kurdish people. I love a Kurd regardless of if he is muslim, yezdi, christian, zoroaster, kakayi, jewish etc. It does not matter.
2. I cannot accept a religion that is made by enemies or imposed on by enemies. They use it to control us.
3. We can never be allowed a country so long as the Majority is muslim. The west would never allow it. The whole reason we were split into 4 peices. I know it was because of Saladin. Don't beleive me? Beleive it, i live in the USA and know a few people working in the army. I always argue that Kurdistan should be a country, they say no cause of Saladin and cause Turkey is strategic location for them and they want to keep them buddies. That is it.. Kurdistan and Kurdish people are more important.

[veanandjean]

Finally, there is someone who has the courage to say the true facts. I personally thank you veanandjean. We should not be following arabs and turks or persian religions. However, my religion is KURDISTAN AND ONLY KURDISTAN as well.....as it says in the Ey Raqib....Dînman, ayînman her nishteman.

Ey Raqib is my prayer 5 times a day.
I should tell you the story of my conversion. I prayed to god and I said god forgive me but I am Kurdish and I cannot accept any religion that puts me in a position to not serve Kurdistan or embrace my Kurdishness to the fullest. I still believe in one god, I am very religious and I do believe in god very very much. However I love Kurdistan more than myself so it does not matter. This is my vision for Kurdistan: its for the suffering we faced. I will try my hardest and do my best

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[jjmuneer]

Islam is peaceful? that's a joke. REally a joke. Non of those semetic religions are peaceful. Kurds are aryan. You can go look up the migration maps and also the classificatins. Im not spitting out western prapaganda. Most Americans accept Islam. Its me who cannot accept
1.I cannot accept that Kurds fight eacher other because of religions. For me religion comes second to Kurdistan and Kurdish people. I love a Kurd regardless of if he is muslim, yezdi, christian, zoroaster, kakayi, jewish etc. It does not matter.
2. I cannot accept a religion that is made by enemies or imposed on by enemies. They use it to control us.
3. We can never be allowed a country so long as the Majority is muslim. The west would never allow it. The whole reason we were split into 4 peices. I know it was because of Saladin. Don't beleive me? Beleive it, i live in the USA and know a few people working in the army. I always argue that Kurdistan should be a country, they say no cause of Saladin and cause Turkey is strategic location for them and they want to keep them buddies. That is it.. Kurdistan and Kurdish people are more important.

So Kurds who are muslim should not follow Islam just because that would hold us back from having a state? Where did you even get this information from? No one is imposing Islam on us. I might remind you alot of religious Kurdish leaders were profound nationalists who did alot for Kurdistan, like Qazi Muhammed.

[brendar]

Finally, there is someone who has the courage to say the true facts. I personally thank you veanandjean. We should not be following arabs and turks or persian religions. However, my religion is KURDISTAN AND ONLY KURDISTAN as well.....as it says in the Ey Raqib....Dînman, ayînman her nishteman.

Ey Raqib is my prayer 5 times a day.
I should tell you the story of my conversion. I prayed to god and I said god forgive me but I am Kurdish and I cannot accept any religion that puts me in a position to not serve Kurdistan or embrace my Kurdishness to the fullest. I still believe in one god, I am very religious and I do believe in god very very much. However I love Kurdistan more than myself so it does not matter. This is my vision for Kurdistan: its for the suffering we faced. I will try my hardest and do my best

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/kurdistan.png/

Dast xosh, Ey Raqib is much greater than most verses in the religion books because thats what makes kurds different from the other "humans" around us. I think most kurds dont realise something important which is that, everyday the kurds that are killed or genocide are either by arabs, turks and persians which i think they are 199% muslims but apparently, we are so senseless that we are unable to distinguish between the right and wrong. However, this tells us that kurds are also narrow minded too. Muslims have destroyed everything that we have had..

Do you know that there are more mosque built in kurdistan morethan in saudi arabia? this is the biggest night mare that i have during the day when i think about kurds......

[brendar]

Wrong, were not indo-Aryan. Indo Aryans were from North west India, they were a bracnh of the indo-iranians. Second Zorastriainism isn't a Kurdish religon. Mithriaism is. Thirdly I'm not leaving Islam because you told me to. I don't give a crap about what other people do. Am I blowing up buildings and raping women? NO.

Basically, i would appreciate to have a religion of my own as well, just like arabs and others. I will ask you some questions?

Why should i follow islam where god says nothing about my people!!!!!!

Does ALLA mentions anything about kurds in quran?
Did ALLA send quran in kurdish?
Isnt mohamad arab?
Isnt islam arab religion?
isn't quran sent by ALLA to the arabs to stop the consequences between them?
Dont you know that ALLA is arab? thats what arabs say!
Then what is islam got to do with kurds?

if muslims people are really really muslims and they follow the quran seriously then, the world will be destroyed into pieces not peace, because in the quran it says "kill non muslims".....there are other things but i dont want to mention because i think we kurds know whats in the quran morethan anyone on this earth...but we deny it and lie to ourselves

I don't know if your a Kurd or a troll, I never said you should follow Islam, I just feel offended that your attacking it. The majority of Kurds don't behave like that. The fact you think we were all Zoroastrians is also funny, thats just Persian propaganda.

I did not hold you back to be a muslim but iam here to tell you facts that are TRUE FACTS, which i didnt make it up but it is there that kurds should consider. Anyways, you do not need to be worried just because we discussing about islam. This will not send us to hell as muslims so scared of it that they do not want to say anything because it is a sin!!

Also iam not a troll because:
kurdistan is first
educations is second
and then the rest comes.

This means that islam should not separate the kurds just because we said something right.

[unitedkurdistan]

WHy should we like islam or any religion with no kurdishness with it? Where was allah when our so called turkish muslims brothers killed, massacred us? Where was allah when our so called arabic muslims brothers gased us? Where was allah when our so called iranian muslims brothers removed us from Iran, killing many, assmiliated millions. They all use religion to abuse us. We got tricked by turks true religion for an independent country. For these reasons and many more i'm against any non kurdishness religion. What did salahaddin do for the kurds? NOTHING. Let the christians, muslims kill eachother. Let they bomb, invade eachother as long they don't interfare with us. My religion is Kurdistan.

[Zhala]

I also don't get why some Kurds like to disrespect islam so much, or try to make a point about Kurds being zarostani thousands of years ago, that religion really isn't Kurdish either. What does being muslim have to do with being Kurdish? all the great leaders we have had, were devoted Muslims and they accomplished the most. I hate, when some of us try to please westerners by talking smack about islam and muslims, like the westerns will actually make a difference between us and the rest of middle east.

Islam is the religion of choice for Kurds and it will be for a very long time.

I 100% agree with you on the point you made about certain Kurds trying to please 'westerners' (I must admit I don't like that word, does that make us easterners?). I think it applies to all people from a Middle Eastern or Asian background, some of them, usually when they're teenagers will become disillusioned with their family's religion or culture and will as a result disassociate with it and even openly discredit and insult it. It is usually very crass but most people grow out of it when they realise that the negative elements that they disliked or disagreed with are just a small part of a bigger picture. However, those who don't shake it off have a seriously crazy view that Western powers are portents or good. They have never helped Kurdistand progress and never will, in fact, as most of you will know they have hindered us. But I'm getting off track.

Why do some some Kurds crtiticise Islam? Well, without engaging in smack talk I can think of a couple of examples.

There was recently a judge from Southern Kurdistan who was sacked because he liked to drink and it was affecting his work performance. Now in a society free from Islamic influence, those circumstances will warrant time off and therapy but not sacking. If anyone can put forward a separate theory as to why this happened I would be glad to hear it but as far as I know the Qu'ran states "intoxicants and games of chance" are "abominations of Satan's handiwork".

The terrible attacks upon the Christian businesses in Zakho were motivated by the ravings of a Muslim cleric. This doesn't mean every Muslim cleric is a hate monger like him (in fact the speech given by the Kurdistan Islamic Union boss in response was excellent) but it hurts the ultimate Kurdish goal of a free, independant and secular state in Southern Kurdistan. Remember, we need all the minority votes in Iraqi Parliament to help achieve out goals. This won't happen if we allow teachings of kafir asli or kafir murtad to seeping through to political policy or every day life.

I know that using random quotes from my handy English translated version of the Qu'ran (a good buy next time any of you are in Slemani, book sellers road - the same place they always blast out 1980s Iranian music - close to Mizgawty Gawra) does not give a rounded view of Islam and I'm not trying to insult. I don't think it is the root of all of Kurdistan's problems but it should be held up to scrutiny. There is room for ALL religions in a free Kurdistan including Islam.

[thesunchild]

Sure my religion is Kurdistan first!

We should all respect all religions in Kurdistan. I believe that Islam is the biggest religion in Kurdistan.

I was born as an Yezidi Kurd, it was not my choice, but I don't consider to become something else. I'm happy with myself. But if I've no choice and must convert to another religion I would convert to Sufism. So Islam itself is not a corrupt religion.

Some very influential Kurdish Islamic scholars elevated Islam to the next and higher academic level and Sufism is a product of it!