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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:21 pm

tomjez wrote:
Uuuuummm... Tomas - are you suggesting she use Turkish to communicate with a Kurdish guy? Confused


can help sometimes...personally I always used turkish to communicate in northern kurdistan :) we can assume that her boyfriend is bilingual, as most northern-kurds...

personally I use french or english indifferently with my girlfriend, so I use cute words from both languages ;)


I don't doubt his Turkish... Probably very fluent and very good...

But I am talking about his future children and Kurdish culture and heritage...

The problem with Kurdish men is that when they marry a non-Kurd, they rarely make their wives learn Kurdish... Which means tons and tons of Kurdish heritage and oral tradition is lost with every Kurd marrying a foreigner... :(
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:34 pm

The problem with Kurdish men is that when they marry a non-Kurd, they rarely make their wives learn Kurdish... Which means tons and tons of Kurdish heritage and oral tradition is lost with every Kurd marrying a foreigner...


as long as they talk to their children in kurdish...
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:47 pm

tomjez wrote:
The problem with Kurdish men is that when they marry a non-Kurd, they rarely make their wives learn Kurdish... Which means tons and tons of Kurdish heritage and oral tradition is lost with every Kurd marrying a foreigner...


as long as they talk to their children in kurdish...


Hopefully their children will grow up to speak Kurdish, English AND Turkish... :wink:
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:17 pm

Exactly! Any language is a wealth and big plus in life! Come on, if I have kids, they will speak at least 3 languages from birth...french, english, and the language of my wife!
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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:58 am

The problem with Kurdish men is that when they marry a non-Kurd, they rarely make their wives learn Kurdish... Which means tons and tons of Kurdish heritage and oral tradition is lost with every Kurd marrying a foreigner...



Most of children growing in Europe are non-Kurdish speakers, even if their parents are Kurds (and if they are Northern Kurds, they spoke even Turkish at home !), if there are no courses at school for that. They understand it of course, but don't really practice it if they never go to Kurdistan for a long time.
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PostAuthor: UE_kurdophile » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:16 am

Here in my country I see that in general in the Kurdish families parents talk to their children in kurdish, but children answer them always in italian, I guess they prefer italian because they want to be accepted by their class-mates and friends...it is sad to see that mothers don't understand what their children tell them, becuase women don't work ,stay at home and so don't learn much italian :(

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PostAuthor: LindyLoo » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:46 pm

Hi Everyone :D
Spas for all the romantic words tomjez. I knew some of female ones already, but not the masculine ones, so I can't wait to use them. I bet you have melted a few hearts over the years with those words :wink: . Diri the Kurdish words are super 8) , as I feel it is very important to at least speak basic words like hello, thankyou etc.... to his family in Kurdish. I know his parents don't speak Turkish, I'm not sure about his brothers & sisters. The only thing is now my boyfriend has sent me a sms back (don't know if its Kurdish or Turkish) & I don't have a clue what it says :? . He must thing I have a dictionary or something, that'll teach me for trying to cheat :oops: . As for what our children should speak, slow down I haven't even married him yet :lol:. But of course to learn as many languages as possible is always the best. So I would love any children of mine to speak Kurdish, Turkish, English & many more languages if they could. I would imagine my boyfriend would encourage any children of ours to speak Kurdish, so at least they could communicate with thier grandparents.
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PostAuthor: LindyLoo » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:48 pm

Hello, its me again :)
Please, please would anyone like to translate the following words for me ( hint, hint maybe Diri :wink: ). My boyfriend sent them to me in a sms earlier but I don't know what they mean :? . I tried finding out on the internet but couldn't find them :cry:. I really, really would be grateful. Have I grovelled enough yet :?: :lol: .
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EZ TE PER :?:
HEZDEKEM :?:
DELALAMEN :?:
SERINAMEN :?:
GEWRAMEN :?:

I really hope they're not rude :oops:.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:12 pm

LindyLoo wrote:Hello, its me again :)
Please, please would anyone like to translate the following words for me ( hint, hint maybe Diri :wink: ). My boyfriend sent them to me in a sms earlier but I don't know what they mean :? . I tried finding out on the internet but couldn't find them :cry:. I really, really would be grateful. Have I grovelled enough yet :?: :lol: .
SPAS xxx

EZ TE PER :?:
HEZDEKEM :?:
DELALAMEN :?:
SERINAMEN :?:
GEWRAMEN :?:

I really hope they're not rude :oops:.


The reason you didn't find them, is that they are not spelled correctly... Because it's not written with standard Kurdish - just his way of expressing them in with English sounds... :)

Ez te pir hez dikem = I want/love you a lot
Dilê min = My heart
Şirîna min = My sweety
Gewra min = My great one

And you are welcome... :)

Feel free to ask for more translations etc. if you need it...

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:05 pm

This is so cool, I'm learning very useful words for my next trips in Kurdistan 8)
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:36 am

diri in one case you are wrong..
lilo meant Delala Min (My Dear)

Delal = Dear
Min = My
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PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:16 am

dyaoko wrote:diri in one case you are wrong..
lilo meant Delala Min (My Dear)

Delal = Dear
Min = My


:^o


You are right... She didn't write "Delemen" she wrote "Delalamen"... :lol:


Delala min - My beautiful one


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PostAuthor: LindyLoo » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:59 pm

Spas you guys :D
Where would I be without your help? You're super 8) . By the time I go to Mardin, I won't be able to talk about politics or anything serious but I'll certainly be able to sweet talk to my boyfriend all day. What a load of old romantics you men really are :wink: .
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PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:58 pm

LindyLoo wrote:Spas you guys :D
Where would I be without your help? You're super 8) . By the time I go to Mardin, I won't be able to talk about politics or anything serious but I'll certainly be able to sweet talk to my boyfriend all day. What a load of old romantics you men really are :wink: .
Bye.....for now SPAS


Awww... :D

You are welcome dear! :)

Let me just give a little piece of advice while we are at it... You shouldn't use those cuddly names on him when his parents are there or somebody older than the two of you... That would be considered dis-respecting them... :)

I know we have a weird culture... :lol:
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PostAuthor: LindyLoo » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:58 am

LOL :lol:
No, its ok Diri I wouldn't have said those things to him in front of anyone anyway. It would be a bit embarassing for his macho image & uncomfortable for others to listen too. Even I myself would hate to be in a room with a couple who cooed over each other. Its just nice really to use those words over the phone or in sms to show how much I love & miss him. I spoke to his mother last night on the phone for the first time 8) . My boyfriend had taught her to say "Hello, how are you?" to me in english. I asked her the same back & then we both giggled. Awww how sweet was that, how nice of her to do that, I bet shes lovely :P .
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