Zazakî Wikipedia!

[Diri]

@ Jamo and "Serd" the "new guy" - who was obviously invited here by Jamo!


You can do JUST as you like... Go or stay...

But we do our best to keep this forum open for EVERYBODY... There are in fact almost more foreigners than Kurds on this forum...

We have:

3 Iranians
1 Italian
1 French
1 Breton
2 Turkish
Americans etc...

You don't have to agree with what people say... But everybody must respect eachothers oppinion... THAT goes for you too Cazyun...


@Cazyun - in one sentence you say "I apologise bro Diri" and in another you say "this creatures zazzas" - THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!

We will NOT accept ANY form of BAD LANGUAGE! No swearing and NO name-calling!

Period... No "but" and no "if"... If you don't like Roj Bash Kurdistan being a multi-national, multi-religious and pluralist place - then you can go to another forum...

Roj Bash Kurdistan is open for EVERYBODY - Zazakî too...

[Serd]

1. I am not invited here by Jamo. I don't even know who he/she is.

2. This child Cazyun has been insulting to Zazas and no real punishment yet.

3. I am a muslim too, but I respect all religions especially Alevi faith.

[cazyun]

WELL its democracy free of speech mr z

i guess you dont know what it is? i mean tell us what do you guys has established so far? where is your bakgrund? ....many more

heheh i am out

[Diri]

1. I am not invited here by Jamo. I don't even know who he/she is.

2. This child Cazyun has been insulting to Zazas and no real punishment yet.

3. I am a muslim too, but I respect all religions especially Alevi faith.

Well - excuse me... I assumed you were since you went directly to this topic...

Welcome...

I know what you mean... And I have warned Cayzun a DOZEN times now...


@ Cazyun - the moderators are discussing about banning you. You should know this. So if you want to stay - you have to prove to us that you are not here just to cause trouble and use bad language...

This forum has it's policies... These policies include banning people who swear, use bad language or in other ways offend other members...

Actions will be taken if you do not comply...

[Parsi]

Axxx...people ALWAYS focus on differences rather than similarities...such a shame....

That's why no one gets along and that's why there is so much ethnic prejudice in the Middle East.

To the Zazas:

Does your slight cultural differences matter THAT much that you have to completely seperate yourselves from Kurds?

I've heard Zaza music, seen their dances, and even ate their food at a lake shore Restaurant in Chicago. It was as if I was in any other Kurdish Restaurant.

Keep this up and Middle East will be composed of teeny tiny poverty stricken countries while the West sits there and pities the poor Middle Eastern people who once were the Kings and Queens of the world.

[Jamo]

Axxx...people ALWAYS focus on differences rather than similarities...such a shame....

That's why no one gets along and that's why there is so much ethnic prejudice in the Middle East.

To the Zazas:

Does your slight cultural differences matter THAT much that you have to completely seperate yourselves from Kurds?

I've heard Zaza music, seen their dances, and even ate their food at a lake shore Restaurant in Chicago. It was as if I was in any other Kurdish Restaurant.

Keep this up and Middle East will be composed of teeny tiny poverty stricken countries while the West sits there and pities the poor Middle Eastern people who once were the Kings and Queens of the world.

Parsi this slight difference matters a lot for Zazas because we don't want to loose our identity. I could say the same about Persians! If it that kind of stuff does not matter for you why don't you call yourself a Kurd? Persians and Kurds have a kind of similar culture too...

Our music is similar to Kurdish music and also our dances since we have been living in the same area for centuries.

Our language is not a Kurdish language or dialect. A Zaza has extrem difficulties to understand Kurmanci or Sorani Kurdish. I remember once when we joined Newroz celebrations in Germany. They were talking only in Kurmanci and Sorani and we Zazas couldn't understand the whole thing! How do you explain it if Zazaki is a Kurdish dialect? Maybe you should click this link before you talk about Zazas or Zazaki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaza_people

Zazas are probably the early Parthians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthia

Kurds say they are Medes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes

These Kurdish people want us to loose our culture and assimilate us like the Turkish government tried before.

[Diri]

Axxx...people ALWAYS focus on differences rather than similarities...such a shame....

That's why no one gets along and that's why there is so much ethnic prejudice in the Middle East.

To the Zazas:

Does your slight cultural differences matter THAT much that you have to completely seperate yourselves from Kurds?

I've heard Zaza music, seen their dances, and even ate their food at a lake shore Restaurant in Chicago. It was as if I was in any other Kurdish Restaurant.

Keep this up and Middle East will be composed of teeny tiny poverty stricken countries while the West sits there and pities the poor Middle Eastern people who once were the Kings and Queens of the world.

Parsi this slight difference matters a lot for Zazas because we don't want to loose our identity. I could say the same about Persians! If it that kind of stuff does not matter for you why don't you call yourself a Kurd? Persians and Kurds have a kind of similar culture too...

Our music is similar to Kurdish music and also our dances since we have been living in the same area for centuries.

Our language is not a Kurdish language or dialect. A Zaza has extrem difficulties to understand Kurmanci or Sorani Kurdish. I remember once when we joined Newroz celebrations in Germany. They were talking only in Kurmanci and Sorani and we Zazas couldn't understand the whole thing! How do you explain it if Zazaki is a Kurdish dialect? Maybe you should click this link before you talk about Zazas or Zazaki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaza_people

Zazas are probably the early Parthians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthia

Kurds say they are Medes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes

These Kurdish people want us to loose our culture and assimilate us like the Turkish government tried before.

Jamo - no matter how SURE you may be of what you say - you shouldn't pretend speaking for ALL Kirmanckî... Because half the Kirmanckî I know call themselves KURDS...

So please use that word when you speak of Kirmanckî: SOME... Not ALL...

And no - Persian and Kurdish culture, dances, food etc. are VERY different in fact...

[Serd]

Axxx...people ALWAYS focus on differences rather than similarities...such a shame....

That's why no one gets along and that's why there is so much ethnic prejudice in the Middle East.

To the Zazas:

Does your slight cultural differences matter THAT much that you have to completely seperate yourselves from Kurds?

I've heard Zaza music, seen their dances, and even ate their food at a lake shore Restaurant in Chicago. It was as if I was in any other Kurdish Restaurant.

Keep this up and Middle East will be composed of teeny tiny poverty stricken countries while the West sits there and pities the poor Middle Eastern people who once were the Kings and Queens of the world.

Well, in America and Europe very few people can differentiate between Araps and Persians. Actually, many people think that Persians are Araps. So, maybe you should also accept the Arap identity. Probabaly, Araps and Persians should join together to form a single Middle Eastern country since people hardly differentiate between you. Oh wait a minute, you are half Azeri and half Kurdish--I learned that in this forum. I forget, sorry. You just pretend to be a Parsi, or.

By the way, Kurdish dialects, Kurmanci, Sorani, Kelhuri are also classified under Iranian Languages family. Many things that are common between Zazaki and Kurdi are also common in other Iranian Languages like Gilaki, Mazandarani, Farsi, Belluci, and others.

[Parsi]

Axxx...people ALWAYS focus on differences rather than similarities...such a shame....

That's why no one gets along and that's why there is so much ethnic prejudice in the Middle East.

To the Zazas:

Does your slight cultural differences matter THAT much that you have to completely seperate yourselves from Kurds?

I've heard Zaza music, seen their dances, and even ate their food at a lake shore Restaurant in Chicago. It was as if I was in any other Kurdish Restaurant.

Keep this up and Middle East will be composed of teeny tiny poverty stricken countries while the West sits there and pities the poor Middle Eastern people who once were the Kings and Queens of the world.

Well, in America and Europe very few people can differentiate between Araps and Persians. Actually, many people think that Persians are Araps. So, maybe you should also accept the Arap identity. Probabaly, Araps and Persians should join together to form a single Middle Eastern country since people hardly differentiate between you. Oh wait a minute, you are half Azeri and half Kurdish--I learned that in this forum. I forget, sorry. You just pretend to be a Parsi, or.

By the way, Kurdish dialects, Kurmanci, Sorani, Kelhuri are also classified under Iranian Languages family. Many things that are common between Zazaki and Kurdi are also common in other Iranian Languages like Gilaki, Mazandarani, Farsi, Belluci, and others.

Now you're sitting there attacking me...even after I welcomed you to the forum

My sn is Parsi b/c it's the language I speak - Parsi is not a ethnicity - Parsu is.

Arabs look nothing like Persians and other Iranian people...Westerners think everyone from the Middle East has to be either Arab or Jew.

[cazyun]

the turkish gov has succed not much left irani mat

[Jamo]

Axxx...people ALWAYS focus on differences rather than similarities...such a shame....

That's why no one gets along and that's why there is so much ethnic prejudice in the Middle East.

To the Zazas:

Does your slight cultural differences matter THAT much that you have to completely seperate yourselves from Kurds?

I've heard Zaza music, seen their dances, and even ate their food at a lake shore Restaurant in Chicago. It was as if I was in any other Kurdish Restaurant.

Keep this up and Middle East will be composed of teeny tiny poverty stricken countries while the West sits there and pities the poor Middle Eastern people who once were the Kings and Queens of the world.

Parsi this slight difference matters a lot for Zazas because we don't want to loose our identity. I could say the same about Persians! If it that kind of stuff does not matter for you why don't you call yourself a Kurd? Persians and Kurds have a kind of similar culture too...

Our music is similar to Kurdish music and also our dances since we have been living in the same area for centuries.

Our language is not a Kurdish language or dialect. A Zaza has extrem difficulties to understand Kurmanci or Sorani Kurdish. I remember once when we joined Newroz celebrations in Germany. They were talking only in Kurmanci and Sorani and we Zazas couldn't understand the whole thing! How do you explain it if Zazaki is a Kurdish dialect? Maybe you should click this link before you talk about Zazas or Zazaki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaza_people

Zazas are probably the early Parthians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthia

Kurds say they are Medes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes

These Kurdish people want us to loose our culture and assimilate us like the Turkish government tried before.

Jamo - no matter how SURE you may be of what you say - you shouldn't pretend speaking for ALL Kirmanckî... Because half the Kirmanckî I know call themselves KURDS...

So please use that word when you speak of Kirmanckî: SOME... Not ALL...

And no - Persian and Kurdish culture, dances, food etc. are VERY different in fact...

I wasn't speaking about Kirmancki, I was talking about Zaza. Kirmancki is just a dialect that we call in Dersim the Zazas in Elaziz and Amed say Dimili which is also a dialect of Zazaki. The majority of Zazaki speaking people call themselves Zaza and not Kurdish the word Zaza is getting more and more important! If you visit some Zazaki websites where they call themselves Kurds you can see maybe 10 or 12 people who are active but if you visit a Zaza website there are at least 2000 different people from all over the world who visit that website daily!

http://www.radiozaza.de is from Zazas

and this is a ridicilous Zazaki-Kurdish website http://www.wengemunzur.radyosu.com only a few people are there 3 or 4

So don't tell me that I should use that word some I will use a lot instead

By the way you should ask these very Kurdish people who speak Zazaki if Zazaki is really a Kurdish dialect or language and you might be surprised what some of them say Eventough they call themselves Kurds they say that Zazaki has indeed mojor differences to Kurdish. After some years I'm sure that nothing will be left from that kind of people! They still want to create a communist country They still live 1980's where Kurds and other groups wanted to create a Communist Turkey or Kurdistan Believe me these people are loosing their power because nobody wants to support them anymore

[Jamo]

http://diq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pela_Seri

It's realy a SHAME! People are dividing us and we can do nothing but sit and observe...


SAY NO TO DIVIDING KURDS - ZAZA(KIRMANCKÎ) ARE KURDS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan

It's realy a SHAME! People are dividing Iraq and we can do nothing but sit and observe...


SAY NO TO DIVIDING IRAQ - KURDS ARE ARABS!

[Diri]

http://diq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pela_Seri

It's realy a SHAME! People are dividing us and we can do nothing but sit and observe...


SAY NO TO DIVIDING KURDS - ZAZA(KIRMANCKÎ) ARE KURDS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan

It's realy a SHAME! People are dividing Iraq and we can do nothing but sit and observe...


SAY NO TO DIVIDING IRAQ - KURDS ARE ARABS!

You are funny...

I already told you how I feel:

If you wanna have your Zazakistan - go ahead...

[Diri]

Watch ROJ TV - RIGHT NOW...


And you will see Kirmanckî -songs sung by Mîkaêl at the New Years eve program...

ENJOY!

[Jamo]

Watch ROJ TV - RIGHT NOW...


And you will see Kirmanckî -songs sung by Mîkaêl at the New Years eve program...

ENJOY!

We don't have that channel anymore but I would like to watch it.

Happy new year