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PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Areas

PostAuthor: Aslan » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:43 am

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ERBIL, Kurdistan Region--The leader of the Democratic Union Party (PYD), Salih Muslim, has warned that the Kurds' future war would be with Arabs who have settled in the Kurdish areas with the help of the Syrian regime.

"One day those Arabs who have been brought to the Kurdish areas will have to be expelled," said Muslim in an interview with Serek TV.

The PYD leader said that the situation in Qamishli and Hasakah is particularly explosive and that "if it continues the same way, there will be war between Kurds and Arabs."

Qamishli is the largest Kurdish city in Syria and Hasakah boasts most of the country’s oil wealth.

Muslim's own armed forces known as People's Protection Units (YPG) have been in control of Syria's Kurdish areas for the past year and a half.

The YPG has been locked in fierce battles with radical Islamic and other rebel groups who have tried to bring the war against the regime of Bashar Assad to the Kurdish cities.

"Syrian government policy has brought many Arabs to the Kurdish areas," said Muslim. "All the villages where they live now belong to the Kurds."

Earlier this month Salih's PYD declared an autonomous government in Syrian Kurdistan (Rojava).

"We are busy putting in order our own house, so why should others have anything to say about it?" said Muslim in response to Turkey's objection to his party's announcement of autonomy. "If they are only looking for excuses, then that it a different story."

Meanwhile, the PYD leader expressed support for the ongoing peace process between Ankara and the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), saying, "The Kurds aren't harmful to Turkey. They have been living together as brothers for years."

"If in Turkey Kurds are accepted, then they will be accepted in all other countries," he added.

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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Londoner » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:51 am

I hope he deals with this problem in a peaceful manner and doesn't let it to escalate to war.
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:18 am

If they make war with everybody around them (Arabs, Turks, and Kurds) their 'Rojavaya PKK-Land' won't last 6 months.
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:28 am

Whose side is the PYD/PKK on ?

Are they really working with Assad? It would not surprise me because their great God Ocalan played a double-sided game while he was a guest of the Syrian regime - at the same time encouraging many THOUSANDS of Syrian Kurds to fight and die for the PKK

Has Assad really armed the PYD/PKK?

Are innocent Kurds being manipulated by their megalomaniac leaders once again :((

Assad arms Kurdish PYD with missiles
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:13 pm

SOME of the Arabs who were settled illegally have to be dealt with humanely and should be allowed to stay if they choose provided that they abide by the rules. And the regional government must find a way to compensate the Kurds who lost land. But a Arab Kurdish war will not be good. There are millions if Kurds that live in Arab dominated areas in the region. So just to get rid of these few Arabs in Rojava and start a regional conflict would not be wise.

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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Londoner » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:08 pm

HZKurdi wrote:The Arabs who were settled illigaly have to be dealt with humanely and should be allowed to stay they choose. But get are accusing land ilifaky tget must keave it. They can stay but they must not interfere with abd except Kurdish rule, if they don't that they need to keave, even by force. But a true Arab Kurdish war will not be good. They're are millions if Kurds that live in Arab dominated areas in the region. So just to get rid of these few Arabs in Rojoca and start a regional conflict would not be wise.


Apparently these Arab Settlers are Sunnies settled there on 1960s by Baathists, Alewites. It seems to me they did that for long term use as they were expecting some thing to happen like what happening now in Syria. Their idea was to create a serious rift between Kurds and Arab Sunnies to benefit their own agenda. The problem now Islamist extremists infiltrating to these Arab Settlers and Kurds see that as a threat to them.

However Kurds can exploit the situation for their benefits by going easy with these Arab settlers at the same time exploiting Beshar Assad to get from him as much as they can from weapons or anything else.
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:31 pm

Londoner wrote:
Apparently these Arab Settlers are Sunnies settled there on 1960s by Baathists, Alewites. It seems to me they did that for long term use as they were expecting some thing to happen like what happening now in Syria. Their idea was to create a serious rift between Kurds and Arab Sunnies to benefit their own agenda. The problem now Islamist extremists infiltrating to these Arab Settlers and Kurds see that as a threat to them.

However Kurds can exploit the situation for their benefits by going easy with these Arab settlers at the same time exploiting Beshar Assad to get from him as much as they can from weapons or anything else.


I completely agree. These Sunni Arabs were settled there by the regime for several purposes. But the weak link in that plan is that they did cold not settle then with Aliwites or even Shia, because there isn't that many of them in Syria. The Kurds can win most over, but there will always be some of them that will cause trouble. Really, the Arabs in Rojava are better off then ones in rest of the country.

The Assad regimes obviously predicted and took precautions against a Kurdish uprising, and the Aliwites were always afraid of the Sunni majority. I have to admit, that the Assad regime is proved to wickedly wise. But they are limited with options now, and I think so far PYD have proven to be also wise and I hope they
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:48 pm

HZKurdi wrote:SOME of the Arabs who were settled illegally have to be dealt with humanely and should be allowed to stay if they choose provided that they abide by the rules. And the regional government must find a way to compensate the Kurds who lost land. But a Arab Kurdish war will not be good. There are millions if Kurds that live in Arab dominated areas in the region. So just to get rid of these few Arabs in Rojava and start a regional conflict would not be wise.

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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:51 pm

HZKurdi wrote:These Sunni Arabs were settled there by the regime for several purposes. But the weak link in that plan is that they did cold not settle then with Aliwites or even Shia, because there isn't that many of them in Syria. The Kurds can win most over, but there will always be some of them that will cause trouble. Really, the Arabs in Rojava are better off then ones in rest of the country.

The Assad regimes obviously predicted and took precautions against a Kurdish uprising, and the Aliwites were always afraid of the Sunni majority. I have to admit, that the Assad regime is proved to wickedly wise. But they are limited with options now, and I think so far PYD have proven to be also wise and I hope they

If my memory serves me right I believe that the main reason for Arab settlements within the Kurdish area were to form a barrier between the Kurds living in Syria and those in Turkey - also to prevent more Kurds from moving over the border from Turkey to live in Syria

The main reason many Kurds were stripped of Syrian citizenship was that they were seen as illegal immigrates - or descendants of illegal immigrates from Turkey
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:54 pm

HZKurdi wrote:
HZKurdi wrote:SOME of the Arabs who were settled illegally have to be dealt with humanely and should be allowed to stay if they choose provided that they abide by the rules. And the regional government must find a way to compensate the Kurds who lost land. But a Arab Kurdish war will not be good. There are millions if Kurds that live in Arab dominated areas in the region. So just to get rid of these few Arabs in Rojava and start a regional conflict would not be wise.

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I am certain that your English is far FAR better than my Kurdish :ymapplause:
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:33 pm

Anthea wrote:
HZKurdi wrote:
HZKurdi wrote:SOME of the Arabs who were settled illegally have to be dealt with humanely and should be allowed to stay if they choose provided that they abide by the rules. And the regional government must find a way to compensate the Kurds who lost land. But a Arab Kurdish war will not be good. There are millions if Kurds that live in Arab dominated areas in the region. So just to get rid of these few Arabs in Rojava and start a regional conflict would not be wise.

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Edited the previous post, sorry it was mess :p

I am certain that your English is far FAR better than my Kurdish :ymapplause:


Well I hope so ::)

I am not sure how I should perceive your comment, but English is my primary language and I usually use a mobile device which is more cumbersome than a PC. And I am just beginning learn done basic Kurdish phrases and words.
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:36 pm

Anthea wrote:
HZKurdi wrote:These Sunni Arabs were settled there by the regime for several purposes. But the weak link in that plan is that they did cold not settle then with Aliwites or even Shia, because there isn't that many of them in Syria. The Kurds can win most over, but there will always be some of them that will cause trouble. Really, the Arabs in Rojava are better off then ones in rest of the country.

The Assad regimes obviously predicted and took precautions against a Kurdish uprising, an

d the Aliwites were always afraid of the Sunni majority. I have to admit, that the Assad regime is proved to wickedly wise. But they are limited with options now, and I think so far PYD have proven to be also wise and I hope they

If my memory serves me right I believe that the main reason for Arab settlements within the Kurdish area were to form a barrier between the Kurds living in Syria and those in Turkey - also to prevent more Kurds from moving over the border from Turkey to live in Syria

The main reason many Kurds were stripped of Syrian citizenship was that they were seen as illegal immigrates - or descendants of illegal immigrates from Turkey


Sounds about right.
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:59 pm

@HzKurdi English is my primary language and I usually use a mobile device which is more cumbersome than a PC. And I am just beginning learn done basic Kurdish phrases and words.


Really ? Which Kurdish do you learn ?
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Shirko » Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:23 am

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@HzKurdi English is my primary language and I usually use a mobile device which is more cumbersome than a PC. And I am just beginning learn done basic Kurdish phrases and words.


Really ? Which Kurdish do you learn ?


Yes. I am mostly focused on learning Kurmanji, but I am also working on some basic Sorani too. Kurds should know at least some if the basics of both, they're both important.
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Re: PYD Leader Warns of War with Arab Settlers in Kurdish Ar

PostAuthor: Londoner » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:37 am

Anthea wrote:If my memory serves me right I believe that the main reason for Arab settlements within the Kurdish area were to form a barrier between the Kurds living in Syria and those in Turkey - also to prevent more Kurds from moving over the border from Turkey to live in Syria

The main reason many Kurds were stripped of Syrian citizenship was that they were seen as illegal immigrates - or descendants of illegal immigrates from Turkey


That was only a common sense excuse, the hidden agenda was to create a big rift between Kurds and Sunnie Arabs for their use benefit when time comes . yes, It was some thing between both sides of Kurds but didn't have any practical values. Syrian Baath, Alewites, used Arab Nationalism to disguise their real identity as a minority Alewites ruling the majority Arab Sunnies. Their elite was French-educated and predicted something to happen like now what happening in Syria. So today they are harvesting, getting Kurds support, what they planted on 1960.

Their harsh treatment against Kurds is a feud and hatred with historical roots. Kurds as Sunnies, have collaborated with Sunnie Arabs and Turks in the oppression of Shia in the region through the history. Egypt was a shia country but Sellahuddin, a Kurd, converted it to a Sunnie country by the force of sword. Hundreds of years ago, Shia scholars claiming Kurds are the descendants of ghosts. This must be because when Kurds attacking them, they didn't see them coming, they just appeared infront of them like ghosts from nowhere :)) . A Shia scholar declared a warning to the people of Baghdad from the swords of Kurds on the old day. In order to help people of Baghdad to recognise Kurds, he described Kurd IDs as wearing colourful clothes and shoes made from goats or sheep hair. When you read it, you can not control yourself to lough
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