Syrian Kurds reportedly seek to export oil via Turkey

[talsor]

I agree that most of it will be smuggled by land at first, like SK. But eventually they can easily link it with the network of pipelines in SK or NK, where Turkey can then deliver safely to the Med. And that is highly plausible, considering that the Syrian coast is strictly controlled by the Assad regime, and because of that, the oil revenues need to be allocated to all Syrians fairly and properly. And the Kurdish region has suffered from thievery and neglect, and also forced arabization and deportations for 100 years. So the rest of the country will have to pay for the losses at first. Lets not forget that WK is also the bread basket of Syria (and the region), so the Syrians have also been stealing food and water from Kurdish soil not to mention the cheap Kurdish labor all these years.

Every scenario is plausible if there is at least a political unity between Rojava and Basur . To be honest , I am begining to think that Tukey is going to go through the problems Syria is facing now in terms of terrorism and civil war and I see Rojava joining Bakur .

[Shirko]

I agree that most of it will be smuggled by land at first, like SK. But eventually they can easily link it with the network of pipelines in SK or NK, where Turkey can then deliver safely to the Med. And that is highly plausible, considering that the Syrian coast is strictly controlled by the Assad regime, and because of that, the oil revenues need to be allocated to all Syrians fairly and properly. And the Kurdish region has suffered from thievery and neglect, and also forced arabization and deportations for 100 years. So the rest of the country will have to pay for the losses at first. Lets not forget that WK is also the bread basket of Syria (and the region), so the Syrians have also been stealing food and water from Kurdish soil not to mention the cheap Kurdish labor all these years.

Every scenario is plausible if there is at least a political unity between Rojava and Basur . To be honest , I am begining to think that Tukey is going to go through the problems Syria is facing now in terms of terrorism and civil war and I see Rojava joining Bakur .

Probably the main obstacle to the political unity is Turkeys policy towards Rojavas rulers, and that combined with the greater rivalry between Ocalan and Barzani. Once Turkeys stance changes, for what ever reason, then natural unity must occur.

I'm not sure if Turkey will go through the same problems as Syria, because they are different so different. Do you mean like a radical Islamic take over or just political chaos. But if that does happen, then Bakur and Rojava will definitely combine, like they should. And it looks like that is already happening, especially if you want to easily connect the cantons together.

[Anthea]

Western Kurdistan should never have been divided into 3 separate regions - it has been done on purpose to weaken the Kurds

[Shirko]

Western Kurdistan should never have been divided into 3 separate regions - it has been done on purpose to weaken the Kurds

Yes, that was part of the Arabization process, and remember that WK should be part of all the western part of NK. But because of the artificial borders, it seems that they are in three parts. This doesntbonvludebother areas that have high Kurdish populations but at not connected to Kurdistan at all. So we have to e more flexible in our idea of boundaries and borders.

[Piling]

In Efrîn, there was no arabization, it was in Hassake– Cizîrê.

Kurds in Syria are separated because the border between Syria and Turkey have detached small Kurdish areas from Northern Kurdistan, as regions like Antakya-Iskenderun (which are mostly Arab-Christian-Alawis areas) should have had stayed in Syria.

These post-Ottoman period, when the Society of Nations (especially France and Great Britain) have reshaped in a weird and random way the borders of Middle-East is now at its end. A new era might sweep off some artificial frontiers.

[Shirko]

In Efrîn, there was no arabization, it was in Hassake– Cizîrê.

Kurds in Syria are separated because the border between Syria and Turkey have detached small Kurdish areas from Northern Kurdistan, as regions like Antakya-Iskenderun (which are mostly Arab-Christian-Alawis areas) should have had stayed in Syria.

These post-Ottoman period, when the Society of Nations (especially France and Great Britain) have reshaped in a weird and random way the borders of Middle-East is now at its end. A new era might sweep off some artificial frontiers.

Btw, the YPG have plans to connect the three cantons with in any eventual outcome, with I with with our NK or SK. At this current time, there are battles taking place between various rebel groups and the YPG and the el Akrad (EK) forces, in areas that are between the cantons.

[Anthea]

@ Shirko did you see the list of different rebel groups in Syria - everybody seems to be fighting everybody else - and one group even mention a member who had gone there from England - apparently he had just driven away with a lorry full of explosives and intended to be a suicide bomber

These people are mad - they go to Syria from all over the world to fight

Guide to armed and political opposition

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24403003

[Piling]

tw, the YPG have plans to connect the three cantons with in any eventual outcome, with I with with our NK or SK. At this current time, there are battles taking place between various rebel groups and the YPG and the el Akrad (EK) forces, in areas that are between the cantons.

Will they do an 'ethnical cleansing' concerning Arab areas separating Kurdish cantons ? The best way to have all the inter nation blocus against them…

[Shirko]

@ Shirko did you see the list of different rebel groups in Syria - everybody seems to be fighting everybody else - and one group even mention a member who had gone there from England - apparently he had just driven away with a lorry full of explosives and intended to be a suicide bomber

These people are mad - they go to Syria from all over the world to fight

Guide to armed and political opposition

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24403003

I know it is very chaotic and there are many many different foreign groups. The failure of the international community to interven in the beggining lead to this. So it has why many Syrian like Arabs and Christians are joining the Kurds to protect and given themselves, rather than being influenced by others (like bother the regime and the so calle opposition).

[Londoner]

tw, the YPG have plans to connect the three cantons with in any eventual outcome, with I with with our NK or SK. At this current time, there are battles taking place between various rebel groups and the YPG and the el Akrad (EK) forces, in areas that are between the cantons.

Will they do an 'ethnical cleansing' concerning Arab areas separating Kurdish cantons ? The best way to have all the inter nation blocus against them…

That is not necessary. The none Kurd areas between each two cantons can be divided between both cantons. None Kurd people of the area becomes citizens of each canton with equal responsibilities and rights like Kurds.

[Anthea]

tw, the YPG have plans to connect the three cantons with in any eventual outcome, with I with with our NK or SK. At this current time, there are battles taking place between various rebel groups and the YPG and the el Akrad (EK) forces, in areas that are between the cantons.

Will they do an 'ethnical cleansing' concerning Arab areas separating Kurdish cantons ? The best way to have all the inter nation blocus against them…

That is not necessary. The none Kurd areas between each two cantons can be divided between both cantons. None Kurd people of the area becomes citizens of each canton with equal responsibilities and rights like Kurds.

Most of the non-Kurds between the cantons are Arabs who were relocated to the area by the Syrian regime with the sole purpose of dividing the Kurds - even so until the recent fighting - the majority of people living in those areas were KURDS

[Shirko]

That is not necessary. The none Kurd areas between each two cantons can be divided between both cantons. None Kurd people of the area becomes citizens of each canton with equal responsibilities and rights like Kurds.

Most of the non-Kurds between the cantons are Arabs who were relocated to the area by the Syrian regime with the sole purpose of dividing the Kurds - even so until the recent fighting - the majority of people living in those areas were KURDS

- the only towns in Rojava still not under YPG and EK control are tel-Hamis, al-Hawa and al-Khatouniyah. Current towns engaged in battle el abiyad Jarablus, not %100 confirmation yet.

- some of these areas most likely currently do have Non Kurd majority, whoever dealing with this requires another discussion .

[Anthea]

Language must be a problem as most Western Kurds cannot speak Kurdish only Arabic - though some learn English

[Shirko]

Language must be a problem as most Western Kurds cannot speak Kurdish only Arabic - though some learn English

What language problem are you talking about exactly? Most Kurds in Kurdish areas speak Kurdish actually an also speak Arabic. Many are learning Kurdish now. You are mixed up with the Kurds the other parts of Syria of who mostly only speak Arabic, but that is not a problem for anyone and if they want live in the Kurdish, then they should learn some Kurdish. And Kurdish will be more common and many also speak English. So there are no language barriers as might think. Look how how many different languages are spoken in EU, people figure out how to communicate.