Presidential elections also to take place in PYD regions

[Qonyeyi]

By answering them, you are giving the impression that these two individuals are somehow connected to the Kurdish community and that their opinion matters. Their opinions do not matter. Not even the slightest since they are:

1) Not informed at all about what is going on in Kurdistan
2) Deliberately post false news
3) They are biased and their only goal is to specifically target the most popular freedom movements in Kurdistan
4) They are speaking as if they are a part of the Kurdish nation
5) They are not pro Kurdish in any way.
6) They ridicule our leaders ( look how they are speaking about Salih Muslim, a man that lost his youngest son in this war), our concepts ( look how they are looking down upon the concept of cantons) and they ridicule our people.
7) They actively support our enemies. Look how they so wish for Assad to have had the access to get Kurdish votes in the Kurdish areas.

For all these reasons, and possibly many more, it is best to let those two anti-Kurdish and non-Kurdish individuals discuss amongst themselves. As long as we, as genuine Kurds and pro-Kurdish individuals, reply to their answers, we will only legitimice their efforts of ridiculing and demonizing the Kurdish people and our struggle.

Just let them have their own little internal discussions. At least people from the outside will not think they speak on the behalf of Kurds.

[Anthea]

By answering them, you are giving the impression that these two individuals are somehow connected to the Kurdish community and that their opinion matters. Their opinions do not matter. Not even the slightest since they are:

1) Not informed at all about what is going on in Kurdistan
2) Deliberately post false news
3) They are biased and their only goal is to specifically target the most popular freedom movements in Kurdistan
4) They are speaking as if they are a part of the Kurdish nation
5) They are not pro Kurdish in any way.
6) They ridicule our leaders ( look how they are speaking about Salih Muslim, a man that lost his youngest son in this war), our concepts ( look how they are looking down upon the concept of cantons) and they ridicule our people.
7) They actively support our enemies. Look how they so wish for Assad to have had the access to get Kurdish votes in the Kurdish areas.

For all these reasons, and possibly many more, it is best to let those two anti-Kurdish and non-Kurdish individuals discuss amongst themselves. As long as we, as genuine Kurds and pro-Kurdish individuals, reply to their answers, we will only legitimice their efforts of ridiculing and demonizing the Kurdish people and our struggle.

Just let them have their own little internal discussions. At least people from the outside will not think they speak on the behalf of Kurds.

Perhaps you have been smoking something strange

I still do NOT understand WHY you think it is right to keep dividing Kurds - I would have thought that Kurds have been divided and suppressed for far too many years - surely only a non-Kurd would welcome the further division and suppression of the Kurdish nation

Could it be that Qonyeyi is not actually a Kurd

How can you refer to a freedom movement as popular when they behave as thugs towards fellow Kurds

Salih Muslim divider of the Kurdish nation - he is lording over LESS THAN HALF of the Kurdish population in Syria - and in so doing putting the lives of Kurds living outside the cantons in far greater danger - all the small Kurdish villages and farming communities in the North of Syria are suffering because of him

Salih Muslim has made himself a big fish in a small isolated sea - as a direct result of his actions many Kurds living in places such as Damascus are now in much greater danger and have to hide their Kurdish identities

It is Qonyeyi who seems to be ignorant of the WELL PUBLICISED FACT that as I previously stated - less than half the Kurdish population actually live in the cantons

[Piling]

our concepts ( look how they are looking down upon the concept of cantons)

Cantons is a French invention, a French word, and a French concept. And your Confederation is just a imitation of Switzerland. But without a territorial continuity and without a democracy. Don't make a fool of yourself like George Bush when he pretends that there is no French word for 'Entrepreneur'

[Shirko]

By answering them, you are giving the impression that these two individuals are somehow connected to the Kurdish community and that their opinion matters. Their opinions do not matter. Not even the slightest since they are:

1) Not informed at all about what is going on in Kurdistan
2) Deliberately post false news
3) They are biased and their only goal is to specifically target the most popular freedom movements in Kurdistan
4) They are speaking as if they are a part of the Kurdish nation
5) They are not pro Kurdish in any way.
6) They ridicule our leaders ( look how they are speaking about Salih Muslim, a man that lost his youngest son in this war), our concepts ( look how they are looking down upon the concept of cantons) and they ridicule our people.
7) They actively support our enemies. Look how they so wish for Assad to have had the access to get Kurdish votes in the Kurdish areas.

For all these reasons, and possibly many more, it is best to let those two anti-Kurdish and non-Kurdish individuals discuss amongst themselves. As long as we, as genuine Kurds and pro-Kurdish individuals, reply to their answers, we will only legitimice their efforts of ridiculing and demonizing the Kurdish people and our struggle.

Just let them have their own little internal discussions. At least people from the outside will not think they speak on the behalf of Kurds.

Perhaps you have been smoking something strange

I still do NOT understand WHY you think it is right to keep dividing Kurds - I would have thought that Kurds have been divided and suppressed for far too many years - surely only a non-Kurd would welcome the further division and suppression of the Kurdish nation

Could it be that Qonyeyi is not actually a Kurd

How can you refer to a freedom movement as popular when they behave as thugs towards fellow Kurds

Salih Muslim divider of the Kurdish nation - he is lording over LESS THAN HALF of the Kurdish population in Syria - and in so doing putting the lives of Kurds living outside the cantons in far greater danger - all the small Kurdish villages and farming communities in the North of Syria are suffering because of him

Salih Muslim has made himself a big fish in a small isolated sea - as a direct result of his actions many Kurds living in places such as Damascus are now in much greater danger and have to hide their Kurdish identities

It is Qonyeyi who seems to be ignorant of the WELL PUBLICISED FACT that as I previously stated - less than half the Kurdish population actually live in the cantons

If you have any dignity and respect , then you would StFU & talk about something that you really know alot about, which is absululety nothing.

[Shirko]

our concepts ( look how they are looking down upon the concept of cantons)

Cantons is a French invention, a French word, and a French concept. And your Confederation is just a imitation of Switzerland. But without a territorial continuity and without a democracy. Don't make a fool of yourself like George Bush when he pretends that there is no French word for 'Entrepreneur'

They obviously decide to use the word canton because they are supposed to resemble the Swiss Confederation (States). But I wish that they didn't use that that term because it MIGHT have French origins (prove the true origins of the word and concept first).

Why do you always act like the French and Europeans are so smart and that made everything? On other occasions you said we should be thankful to the West for the tv and net. Do you know that your French culture never made crap? Basically a mixed groups of people that got screwed by the North Africans, English and Germans. The French whereby really the best during the eras of European colonialization and industrial and expansion race. They didn't hold on to territory in the Americas, the Conquistadors whipped your asses, yes or no? What about the Louisiana Purchase? Who got suckered?

And even the European "Renassuance" luckily accured in France not because their brilliance, but because of the Muslim invasion and the Jews translation of the ancient near eastern knowledge into Latin.

So get off of your imaginary imperialistic high horse.

[Shirko]

To French other than piling, I like France and French food too. I'm just mad at piling and retaliating because of attacks against others that occur here under her administration.

[Shirko]

By answering them, you are giving the impression that these two individuals are somehow connected to the Kurdish community and that their opinion matters. Their opinions do not matter. Not even the slightest since they are:

1) Not informed at all about what is going on in Kurdistan
2) Deliberately post false news
3) They are biased and their only goal is to specifically target the most popular freedom movements in Kurdistan
4) They are speaking as if they are a part of the Kurdish nation
5) They are not pro Kurdish in any way.
6) They ridicule our leaders ( look how they are speaking about Salih Muslim, a man that lost his youngest son in this war), our concepts ( look how they are looking down upon the concept of cantons) and they ridicule our people.
7) They actively support our enemies. Look how they so wish for Assad to have had the access to get Kurdish votes in the Kurdish areas.

For all these reasons, and possibly many more, it is best to let those two anti-Kurdish and non-Kurdish individuals discuss amongst themselves. As long as we, as genuine Kurds and pro-Kurdish individuals, reply to their answers, we will only legitimice their efforts of ridiculing and demonizing the Kurdish people and our struggle.

Just let them have their own little internal discussions. At least people from the outside will not think they speak on the behalf of Kurds.

I have to agree with you, but I only use this site because there are still some Kurds that are still using it sometimes. But has anyone heard from kak Talsor lately??

[KabirKuhi]

our concepts ( look how they are looking down upon the concept of cantons)

Cantons is a French invention, a French word, and a French concept. And your Confederation is just a imitation of Switzerland. But without a territorial continuity and without a democracy. Don't make a fool of yourself like George Bush when he pretends that there is no French word for 'Entrepreneur'

They obviously decide to use the word canton because they are supposed to resemble the Swiss Confederation (States). But I wish that they didn't use that that term because it MIGHT have French origins (prove the true origins of the word and concept first).

Why do you always act like the French and Europeans are so smart and that made everything? On other occasions you said we should be thankful to the West for the tv and net. Do you know that your French culture never made crap? Basically a mixed groups of people that got screwed by the North Africans, English and Germans. The French where the biggest losers of the European colonialization and industrial and expansion race. They couldn't Ben hold on to territory in the Americas, the Conquistadors whipped your asses, yes or no?

And even the European "Renassuance" luckily accured in France not because their brilliance, but because of the Muslim invasion and the Jews translation of the ancient near eastern knowledge into Latin.

So get off of your imaginary imperialistic high horse.

Everything began in France. France is the center of the universe, even aliens living in alpha century have altars dedicated to the french republic. during judgement day you'll be spoken to in french. Also before franks... there was nothing, just a void. No process of evolution or divine creation of humans started, all men are creations of the celestial frankish, responsible for big bang and the creation humanity.

Anyway the only thing canton means is military installation or military district. The word might come from french, it doesn't mean france were the first ones to have designated districts or district based administration. That's ridicules, and just based on arrogance(A trait french are known to posses). There were military and adminstrative districts, in mesopotamia and all over the world where larger civilizations existed. In example is carthage, where the shofet(head councilman in the cities council) who had designated noblemen as adminstrators of districts, which had sub-districts. These were all political, adminstrative and economical districts. Whenever a carthaginian noble wanted to support, he'd turn to carthaginian "cantons", which would in turn weigh in on the nobles election to the city council. They also had unions, peoples assemblys responsible for "cantons", and who'd weigh in on the council and shofets descision making. So the inventions of cantons cannot be "french". Just as many things piling and other french claim.

[Qonyeyi]

Ewe ku Kurdi dizanin, bangeke min heye ji bo we: hun edi bershiv nedin ew miroven ku welate we perche perche kirin di dema ceng u shere yekemin li cihane. Ew welate we xerap kirin, u iro disa ji bi xerapbune u neyartiye behsa welate we dikine. Bila ji min bipirse, ez ji bejim ku armanca wan tene ji bo dijberti ye li welate me ye.

And to piling. Are you not a woman? Dont talk to me about democracy. Maybe it is time for you to demand a french female president? Heck, maybe it is time for you to try to increase your representation of women in parliament. Even Andorra, Zimbabwe and Rwanda are countries with higher female representation in parliament than france.

The Western Kurdistan model is more democratic than france ever was and ever will be on a very good day. It has better youth representation in parliament, better female representation in parliament and administrative life... It even has a co president system with a female president and various female canton leaders. Maybe it is time for french men to learn and read about the Western Kurdistan revolution.

Au revoir!

[Anthea]

If you have any dignity and respect , then you would StFU & talk about something that you really know alot about, which is absululety nothing.

I obviously know a great deal more than you do - probably because I actually have Kurdish friends in the area where the fighting is taking place

You need to check your sources of information and you will discover that - as previously stated - the majority of Kurds live outside the cantons - those now living outside the cantons in the North of Syria are struggling to survive - those in the South are suffering increased violence

Shirko I thought you to be an intelligent man - surely you must have realised that while there were admittedly comparatively somewhat larger numbers of Kurds in certain areas (those now separated into cantons) there were vast numbers of small Kurdish villages and farming communities stretching across the Northern part of Syria and down further towards central Syria

Do not be swayed by propaganda - use your brain and your own ability to reason and work things out - because when you think logically you will realise that most Kurds do not and could not have lived in 3 totally unconnected isolated areas

[Piling]

Ewe ku Kurdi dizanin, bangeke min heye ji bo we: hun edi bershiv nedin ew miroven ku welate we perche perche kirin di dema ceng u shere yekemin li cihane. Ew welate we xerap kirin, u iro disa ji bi xerapbune u neyartiye behsa welate we dikine. Bila ji min bipirse, ez ji bejim ku armanca wan tene ji bo dijberti ye li welate me ye.

And to piling. Are you not a woman? Dont talk to me about democracy. Maybe it is time for you to demand a french female president? Heck, maybe it is time for you to try to increase your representation of women in parliament. Even Andorra, Zimbabwe and Rwanda are countries with higher female representation in parliament than france.

The Western Kurdistan model is more democratic than france ever was and ever will be on a very good day. It has better youth representation in parliament, better female representation in parliament and administrative life... It even has a co president system with a female president and various female canton leaders. Maybe it is time for french men to learn and read about the Western Kurdistan revolution.

Au revoir!

Parity is a joke and has always been a joke in politics, wherever it happens. Exactly like 'reserved seats for minorities'. Whenever there are such places for women & minorities in an institution, it means that it is not a center of power and decision (as the Parliament in Erbil or in Bagdad). The best indication that PYD and HDP are puppets (in Qandil, Imrali, Ankara, Damascus's hands, who knows ?) is precisely that females-and-minorities-show in a parody of democracy. As in Baath regime, women and christians are promoted… if they support the regime, that's all.

Even within the PKK women are and were ever secondary auxiliaries and if Öcalan liked to be supported by his female groups it is precisely because no woman could become the 'serok' instead of himself and it comforted him in his paranoid fear of rivals within the Party.

The only woman that could have threatened him was his own wife, which he condemned to capital punishment, obliged to fly and hide and which he denounced to Turks as the real Olof Palme's murderer. Another nasty not-fairplay divorce case, *sigh*…

ʿAmudah: Demonstrations against presidential elections
KURDWATCH, June 9, 2014—On June 3, 2014, approximately a thousand people in ʿAmudah took part in a demonstration organized by activists and protested against the presidential elections that took place the same day. Approximately a thousand people also demonstrated in al‑Malikiyah (Dêrik) for the same reason. The Kurdish Youth Movement organized the protest. In al‑Qamishli nearly eighty people took to the streets. Youth groups with ties to the Kurdish National Council organized the demonstration.

http://kurdwatch.org/?aid=3118&z=en&cure=1016

[Qonyeyi]

Lots of excuses, no real arguements.

You just prove you know nothing of Kurdistan and PKK. The second in line after Ocalan was Sakine Cansiz. There would be no peace process if turkey had not gotten its accept from the Kurdish economical centre in Europe. Sakine Cansiz was in charge of that. Without the European cadroes supporting the initiative there would be no peace process. This is probably why she was killed by some sort of provocateurs. Although Ocalan is known as the architect of the peace process, there is a very big possibility that many of the steps were already planned ahead by Sakine Cansiz.

Another thing you seem to misunderstand, is that the women in Kurdistan and among PKK actually have more power than men. Aysel Tugluk is the leader of the DTK and one of the architects behind HDP creation. You could call DTK the ''legal'' KCK... So she is ultimately the leader of the supreme organisation of Kurds in Northern Kurdistan and Turkey.

You would know these things if you were a Kurd or a true supporter of Kurds instead of lying and bashing about the Kurdish struggle.

[Anthea]

@ Qonyeyi I actually met Sakine Cansiz so kindly do not besmirch her name

Sakine Cansiz may have been killed because she was strongly in favour of an independent Kurdistan - she would never have agreed to Ocalan selling out the Kurdish dream and agreeing for Kurds to remain living with Turkish suppression as third class citizens under the Turkish regime

Sakine Cansiz was a proud Kurd and a well respected Kurdish separatist - do not try to pretend that she would sell out the Kurdish dream as Ocalan has

[Qonyeyi]

yes, you met Obama and Putin too right...

[Piling]

The second in line after Ocalan was Sakine Cansiz.

Sakine Cansiz was nothing after she should leave guerrilla for she had some troubles with other commanders (a male coalition against her). Because she was a constant pro-Öcalan figure, and not dangerous to him, she was spared and finished her life to a secondary place (in charge of woman) : sidelines, no more.

Aysel Tugluk is the leader of the DTK and one of the architects behind HDP creation. You could call DTK the ''legal'' KCK... So she is ultimately the leader of the supreme organisation of Kurds in Northern Kurdistan and Turkey.

Parties were nothing, just puppets of PKK before the peace process. Now they are the docile executors of a peace process only decided in secret between Öcalan and MIT. Their only use is to bring messages from Öcalan to Qandil and European PKK offices.