Food and Health Room

[Londoner]

Thank you for your kind offer

But sadly I do not live in London

I live in the lovely Oxfordshire countryside

Lucky you!!! You live in a lovely and healthy countryside.

[Anthea]

I used to work in Croydon and many of my friends are still there

I just cannot bring myself to go there anymore

Croydon is full of black drug dealers

Shoplifter - Muggers - Burglars - Drunks - Prostitutes

I used to look out of my office window and watch the drunks fighting

I could see drug deals taking place

And prostitutes taking their clients into the station car park

Shops were often attacked by gangs of black youths

I need to visit friends in Hammersmith and Wood Green

and a few other places

One of my friends took on a new office in North London

I really would love to work with her she is such a lovely person

and does so much for the Kurdish cause I feel really guilty

The air smells bad and most of the people stink of BO and stale cigarettes

I HATE LONDON

[Anthea]

BBC News Health

Mediterranean diet is best way to tackle obesity, say doctors
By Adam Brimelow



A Mediterranean diet may be a better way of tackling obesity than calorie counting, leading doctors have said.

Writing in the Postgraduate Medical Journal (PMJ), the doctors said a Mediterranean diet quickly reduced the risk of heart attacks and strokes.

And they said it may be better than low-fat diets for sustained weight loss.

Official NHS advice is to monitor calorie intake to maintain a healthy weight.

Last month NHS leaders stressed the need for urgent action to tackle obesity and the health problems that often go with it.

The PMJ editorial argues a focus on food intake is the best approach, but it warns crash dieting is harmful.

Signatories of the piece included the chair of the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges, Prof Terence Stephenson, and Dr Mahiben Maruthappu, who has a senior role at NHS England.

They criticise the weight-loss industry for focusing on calorie restriction rather than "good nutrition".

Better than statins

And they make the case for a Mediterranean diet, including fruit and vegetables, nuts and olive oil, citing research suggesting it quickly reduces the risk of heart attacks and strokes, and may be better than low-fat diets for sustained weight loss.

The lead author, cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra, says the scientific evidence is overwhelming.

"What's more responsible is that we tell people to concentrate on eating nutritious foods.

Med diet

Inspired by traditional cuisine of countries such as Greece, Spain and Italy, the Mediterranean diet has long been associated with good health and fit hearts.

Typically, it consists of an abundance of vegetables, fresh fruit, wholegrain cereals, olive oil and nuts, as well as poultry and fish, rather than lots of red meat and butter or animal fats.

"It's going to have an impact on their health very quickly. We know the traditional Mediterranean diet, which is higher in fat, proven from randomised controlled trials, reduces the risk of heart attack and stroke even within months of implementation."

The article also says adopting a Mediterranean diet after a heart attack is almost three times as effective at reducing deaths as taking cholesterol-lowering statin medication.

The authors argue the NHS is in a "key position" to set a national example by providing healthy food in hospitals and by ensuring doctors and nurses understand the evidence.

'Common sense'

Prof Stephenson says the service can exert a powerful influence, for good or ill.

"Our hospitals and surgeries are the frontline for delivering health, it's nothing more than common sense then that we should be leading by example.

"We wouldn't dream of letting people drink alcohol or smoke in any healthcare environment, so I find it incomprehensible that we facilitate and sometimes actively promote food and drink that in some ways cause as many problems. And although some positive steps have been taken on the food given to patients in hospital, their visitors and staff also deserve better."

Public Health England is reviewing the dietary advice conveyed in the "eatwell plate" - which is used across the UK for guidance on what food to eat. Its recommendations include calorie-counted recipes to help achieve a healthy weight.

Dr Alison Tedstone, the chief nutritionist at Public Health England, said there was no single silver-bullet solution.

"Government advice is to eat plenty of bread, rice, potatoes, pasta and other starchy foods, plenty of fruit and vegetables; and some milk and dairy products, meat, fish, eggs, beans and other sources of non-dairy protein.

"Foods high in salt, fat and sugar should be eaten less often and in small amounts. If you are currently overweight you will need to eat less to achieve a healthy weight and be active as part of a healthy lifestyle."

The chairman of the National Obesity Forum, professor David Haslam, welcomed the article.

"A calorie is not just a calorie and it is naive for anyone to think the complex hormonal and neurological appetite systems of the body respond to different substances in the diet in identical fashion."

He said banning fast food outlets in hospitals would be a "legal minefield" given the extended contracts in existence. But he said healthy nutrition programmes could be put in place - as has happened in other big organisations - to counter what he called their "sinister effect".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29929403

[Londoner]

Typically, it consists of an abundance of vegetables, fresh fruit, wholegrain cereals, olive oil and nuts, as well as poultry and fish, rather than lots of red meat and butter or animal fats.

Lets to refine above to the real diet contributing ones: an abundance of fresh vegetables, fresh fruit, wholegrain cereals and nuts as well as fish.

Olive oil in this case has not any bearing.

The only way to get any benefits from olive oil is to eat the olive.
The only way to get any benefits from fish oil is the eat the fish.

Once the oil separated from the olive or fish it becomes oxidised, carries some harms into our body.

[Londoner]

I used to work in Croydon and many of my friends are still there

I just cannot bring myself to go there anymore

Croydon is full of black drug dealers

Shoplifter - Muggers - Burglars - Drunks - Prostitutes

I used to look out of my office window and watch the drunks fighting

I could see drug deals taking place

And prostitutes taking their clients into the station car park

Shops were often attacked by gangs of black youths

I need to visit friends in Hammersmith and Wood Green

and a few other places

One of my friends took on a new office in North London

I really would love to work with her she is such a lovely person

and does so much for the Kurdish cause I feel really guilty

The air smells bad and most of the people stink of BO and stale cigarettes

I HATE LONDON

Well that is the real world, the real life. That is how life goes on in big cities like London or any where else. We can not do anything about it, we have to live with it or choose the quiet lovely healthy life style of countryside.

I thought from my observation Croydon is populated by rich conservative social high class with very lovely skin colours. This explains the spread of drugs. Usually drugs smuggled into the country by people of high position socially and officially, something you can not have it unless you have a very lovely nice skin colour. After that distributed to the street with the use of dropouts.

Well at least the place is safe for my grand children. Since my son bought his house in Carshalton, west of Croydon I have been stopped twice by undercover police. Once when I arrived to his door, no one was home. So I started walking around to pass time until they come back. unexpectly two undercover officers came to me and investigated me. Another time I took my grand son with his scooter. He is a bit hipper active. The moment he reached the road, he got on his scooter and started escaping from me as he was driving a ferary. I have to run very fast to catch with him and stop him. The moment I got him, there was an undercover car with two people inside stopped and introduced them selves with their id as met police and started investigating me.

[Anthea]

Well that is the real world, the real life. That is how life goes on in big cities like London or any where else. We can not do anything about it, we have to live with it or choose the quiet lovely healthy life style of countryside.

I thought from my observation Croydon is populated by rich conservative social high class with very lovely skin colours. This explains the spread of drugs. Usually drugs smuggled into the country by people of high position socially and officially, something you can not have it unless you have a very lovely nice skin colour. After that distributed to the street with the use of dropouts.

Well at least the place is safe for my grand children. Since my son bought his house in Carshalton, west of Croydon I have been stopped twice by undercover police. Once when I arrived to his door, no one was home. So I started walking around to pass time until they come back. unexpectly two undercover officers came to me and investigated me. Another time I took my grand son with his scooter. He is a bit hipper active. The moment he reached the road, he got on his scooter and started escaping from me as he was driving a ferary. I have to run very fast to catch with him and stop him. The moment I got him, there was an undercover car with two people inside stopped and introduced them selves with their id as met police and started investigating me.

Perhaps you have a long beard and were mistaken for a member of ISIS

Carshalton is a lovely place to live - not at all like Croydon

and it has a Kebab shop with the best chilli sauce in the entire world

Croydon also has child trafficking (African enterprise) and Eastern European sex slaves

Croydon also has TURKS

PS:

I have never heard of anyone not having their children's door key

I never even thought about it before

Is it a Kurdish thing?

[Londoner]

Perhaps you have a long beard and were mistaken for a member of ISIS

Every day I shave myself.

Carshalton is a lovely place to live - not at all like Croydon

and it has a Kebab shop with the best chilli sauce in the entire world

Most of the barber shops are Kurds around the area. My son told me. He has learnt some Kurdish from them and has learnt to discuss Kurdish issues with them. Now whenever he hears some news he calls me and he is attached to Kobani passionately. By the way today we have done very well in Kobany.

I have never heard of anyone not having their children's door key

I never even thought about it before

Is it a Kurdish thing?

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We have children door key. What make you think about that?

[Anthea]

We have children door key. What make you think about that?

Sorry I thought that was what you meant when you said you were wandering around while waiting for you family

As for you being stopped by undercover police

I have a nasty feeling that there are Islamic State cells in the Croydon area

I do not picture you as looking like a terrorist or villain

Did you find that lovely kebab shop YUM YUM

Makes my mouth water when I think of the food

[Shirko]

Yo yo, roj bash in the food room Who's got the best kabob preparation method?

[Piling]

How many recipes of kebabs ? In Adana, there are 12 as they say), but the Urfa kebab is famous.

I have no personal method for once In Efrîn i helped and watched women making a kebab. It took one afternoon : choping the meat with a non electric machine (a hell, every 15 mn they stopped to clean the chopper from nerves and hard parts), melting it with oil and spices, and then cooking it slowly with tomatoes an eggplants in an oven during at least 2 hours.

but at the end it was tasty but i will never do it myself.

(the best thing in Rojava is their kofte)

[Shirko]

How many recipes of kebabs ? In Adana, there are 12 as they say), but the Urfa kebab is famous.

I have no personal method for once In Efrîn i helped and watched women making a kebab. It took one afternoon : choping the meat with a non electric machine (a hell, every 15 mn they stopped to clean the chopper from nerves and hard parts), melting it with oil and spices, and then cooking it slowly with tomatoes an eggplants in an oven during at least 2 hours.

but at the end it was tasty but i will never do it myself.

(the best thing in Rojava is their kofte)

Yes Kofte is made kabob meat. But it is a pan baked dish, that's another subject. And there is many variations of kufta, baked with, just tomatoes and potoes, or many other ways. It's also sometimes baked with a yoghurt sauce. Every family does it a little different. Or you can go to any butcher, and he can prepare it for you.

[Shirko]

I visited the hills west of Efrin, there is many of these little family run restaurants in the forested hills overlooking the sea. Some of the best food and atmosphere, mostly owned by Armenians, they can also serve alcohol or they let you bring it.

[Piling]

Efrîn is under Aleppo influence, and Aleppo was a fine capital of good meals, with many mixed cultures.

I wonder what was the favorite Kurdish meal of Londoner, before he converted to ionized veganism

[Londoner]

We have children door key. What make you think about that?

Sorry I thought that was what you meant when you said you were wandering around while waiting for you family

As for you being stopped by undercover police

I have a nasty feeling that there are Islamic State cells in the Croydon area

I do not picture you as looking like a terrorist or villain

Did you find that lovely kebab shop YUM YUM

Makes my mouth water when I think of the food

No I am afraid not. For me, they are not healthy but my sons family fond of it unfortunately. Well, they are still very young.

Tomorrow my actifry get delivered. So far I have watched so many youtube videos about it, I feel I am an expert user.

[Londoner]

Yo yo, roj bash in the food room Who's got the best kabob preparation method?

Welcome back Kak Shirko.