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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: ideas » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:25 pm

Djembe wrote:Israelis support Kurds is more like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. And comparing Palestine with Kurds in Turkey is more like comparing apples with spinach. Palestinians situation in Israel is far way worse than the Kurds in Turkey.


So, Arabic is not recognised in Israel?

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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: Djembe » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:26 pm

ideas wrote:
So, Arabic is not recognised in Israel?


Is this only criteria for the comparison?
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: Kulka » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:43 am

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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: talsor » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:17 pm

Djembe wrote:Israelis support Kurds is more like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. And comparing Palestine with Kurds in Turkey is more like comparing apples with spinach. Palestinians situation in Israel is far way worse than the Kurds in Turkey.


Although there is absolutly no proof that Israel is supporting or training Kurds , I do not see why you would have a problem with that . After all does not Israel openly support turkey with their fight against PKK ? so why is it an issue when it come to Kurds ?

You comparisin is idiotic to say the least ? Palestinian in Isreal have rights that Kurds could only dream about at this stage of their struggle .
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: Djembe » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:25 pm

talsor wrote:
Djembe wrote:Israelis support Kurds is more like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. And comparing Palestine with Kurds in Turkey is more like comparing apples with spinach. Palestinians situation in Israel is far way worse than the Kurds in Turkey.


Although there is absolutly no proof that Israel is supporting or training Kurds , I do not see why you would have a problem with that . After all does not Israel openly support turkey with their fight against PKK ? so why is it an issue when it come to Kurds ?

You comparisin is idiotic to say the least ? Palestinian in Isreal have rights that Kurds could only dream about at this stage of their struggle .


Let me clarify. When I say 'Israelis support Kurds, I did not mean i.e. training Kurds. I was more like referring the the poster from Israel. What I meant that Israelis support for Kurdish is more to do with recent break down of Israel/Turkey relationship.

Are you referring Palestinians under Israeli occupation? Or Palestinians in Israel?
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: talsor » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:56 am

Djembe wrote:
talsor wrote:
Djembe wrote:Israelis support Kurds is more like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. And comparing Palestine with Kurds in Turkey is more like comparing apples with spinach. Palestinians situation in Israel is far way worse than the Kurds in Turkey.


Although there is absolutly no proof that Israel is supporting or training Kurds , I do not see why you would have a problem with that . After all does not Israel openly support turkey with their fight against PKK ? so why is it an issue when it come to Kurds ?

You comparisin is idiotic to say the least ? Palestinian in Isreal have rights that Kurds could only dream about at this stage of their struggle .


Let me clarify. When I say 'Israelis support Kurds, I did not mean i.e. training Kurds. I was more like referring the the poster from Israel. What I meant that Israelis support for Kurdish is more to do with recent break down of Israel/Turkey relationship.

Are you referring Palestinians under Israeli occupation? Or Palestinians in Israel?


so what ? you are still not making any point or did I miss something here.
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: Djembe » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:34 am

talsor wrote:
so what ? you are still not making any point or did I miss something here.


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sraelis support Kurds is more like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'.


is a point. Let me clarify. The poster opinion about supporting Kurdish people is most likely due to, recent break down of Israeli-Turkey's diplomatic relationship. Do you disagree? If that is the case, why?
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: talsor » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:13 pm

Djembe wrote:
talsor wrote:
so what ? you are still not making any point or did I miss something here.


Talsor

sraelis support Kurds is more like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'.


is a point. Let me clarify. The poster opinion about supporting Kurdish people is most likely due to, recent break down of Israeli-Turkey's diplomatic relationship. Do you disagree? If that is the case, why?


in the international stage there are no friend , just opponents and mutual interests . Do you honestly believe that Isreal adored turkey prior to the break down of their relation ?
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: Djembe » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:24 pm

in the international stage there are no friend , just opponents and mutual interests . Do you honestly believe that Isreal adored turkey prior to the break down of their relation ?


I agree. There is no friendship in diplomacy. There are interests. I don't believe Israel adored Turkey, in fact, opposite, Israel saw Turkey as a potential enemy because of its strategic, economic and political influence.
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: talsor » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:00 pm

Djembe wrote:
in the international stage there are no friend , just opponents and mutual interests . Do you honestly believe that Isreal adored turkey prior to the break down of their relation ?


I agree. There is no friendship in diplomacy. There are interests. I don't believe Israel adored Turkey, in fact, opposite, Israel saw Turkey as a potential enemy because of its strategic, economic and political influence.


We understand what Israel is trying to do with their sudden interest in Kurds and Kurdish rights . After all Isreal was resposible for capturing that idiot Ocalan , Israeli Drons and weapon were/are used in Killing Kurds . I think Kurdish cooperation with Isreal dispite their ill intension is a step forward for Kurds and we as kurds should fully endorse it .
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: Djembe » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:12 pm

We understand what Israel is trying to do with their sudden interest in Kurds and Kurdish rights .


Well, we have a consensus on this.
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:18 am

Djembe wrote:comparing Palestine with Kurds in Turkey is more like comparing apples with spinach. Palestinians situation in Israel is far way worse than the Kurds in Turkey.



yes both are way different

Israelis came and bought lands and maybe occupied some lands too
kurds have always lived in their lands , never bought or occupied any lands as they till today have no power to do so specially in north kurdistan
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:28 am

Djembe wrote:
Are you referring Palestinians under Israeli occupation? Or Palestinians in Israel?


so you give yourself the right to say "occupation" regarding Palestinian lands but you dont give the same for north kurdistan "occupation" by turkey ??
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Re: Support the Kurdish people

PostAuthor: Djembe » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:33 am

alan131210 wrote:
Djembe wrote:
Are you referring Palestinians under Israeli occupation? Or Palestinians in Israel?


so you give yourself the right to say "occupation" regarding Palestinian lands but you dont give the same for north kurdistan "occupation" by turkey ??


That is correct. I would not say occupation by Turkey but occupation by Israel. Kurdistan is not under occupation. Is there any 'reference' Turkish occupation of Kurdistan in political literature? Please provide reference source.
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PostAuthor: Djembe » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:35 am

alan131210 wrote:
Djembe wrote:comparing Palestine with Kurds in Turkey is more like comparing apples with spinach. Palestinians situation in Israel is far way worse than the Kurds in Turkey.



yes both are way different

Israelis came and bought lands and maybe occupied some lands too
kurds have always lived in their lands , never bought or occupied any lands as they till today have no power to do so specially in north kurdistan


Flawed. It looks like you are comparing Israel vs Kurdistan. The question is more like Palestine/Kurdistan vs Israel/Turkey. No?
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