An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

[max_b]

is oil sold at a set price or does every nation negotiate with oil companies?

[talsor]

is oil sold at a set price or does every nation negotiate with oil companies?

How old are you heval ?

[max_b]

why?

[burnsss]

is oil sold at a set price or does every nation negotiate with oil companies?

This off topic but the oil price depends on demand/supply. its simple economics,.

[kurdistanis1]

Whats wrong with having flights from Israel to Kurdistan anyway? There are flights from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey to israel. Who cares what our neighbors and radicals think.

Aside from the news not being true , there is nothing wrong at all . I understand the hypocrisy here considering that they all have formal or informal relation with Israel , but why provide our enemies with ammunition to them to attack Kurdistan ?

Well, USA is located in Kurdistan because of very attractive oil deals. THere is oil for at least 100 years in Kurdistan. I am sure no country will even try to attack Kurdistan, because Kurdistan's oil = USA's oil, and you don't want to mess with them. They'll fuck your entire country up, even if you're an ''ally'' if you touch oil lol .

How old are you? Kurdish Oil=Kurdish Oil, it's no one else's. If USA wants to buy from us, they are welcome to. But please don't degrade our nation with embarrassing comments like that.

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is oil sold at a set price or does every nation negotiate with oil companies?

This off topic but the oil price depends on demand/supply. its simple economics,.

Heval its not of topic because crazy is talking about it, do you mind explaining it to me?

[dyaoko]

I dont think this new is true, some picture of some plane , is not verification , it kind of gets boring ,because these kind of news is usualy made by Press TV of Islamic Republic of Iran, whenever they boil about Kurdistan achievement they keep making news about israel doing this and that in kurdistan. they hope they can get some anger toward KRG among islamist ... so whenever I heard such news i say...Sigh PRESS TV you again???


Personally I would support Kurdistan to be friends with all the states in the world and ofcourse with israel too.

[destiny]

I hate Palestinians. I have seen a video in which Palestinian kids are teached to be suicide terrorist.
I will post the link to that video on youtube later, I'm not making this up.

So all those muslims who say ''Look, Jews are killing innocent kids'' are fucking liars, like most of them. Israeli soldiers are killing child terrorists and kids who are trying to blow themselves up and kill innocent people, should not be considered as children in my eyes. They are evil and are in no way comparable to a Kurdish, Jewish, French or whatever kid of the same age. They should be stopped (so if necessary shot) to prevent more casualties. Including their families, who've teached them to become terrorists.

That is how Islam is.

And I hate Palestinians overall. Those fucking bastards waved with Iraqi flags and pictures of Saddam during the Anfal campaign. They are dogs and inhuman and Israel should kick them out of their land. Palestinians should not be allowed to live on Jewish land.

Please, don't talk about a couple of Palestinian kids learning how to be suicide bombers (although wrong) to avenge their fallen fathers and grand fathers, in the hands of the zionist regime.

You wanna know something funny? Israel attacks schools with the justification that Hamas "terrorists" (the people who were ELECTED by their own people) were using the site as a training camp, and didn't mean to kill and injure the kids inside it. Imagine hamas suicide bombers used the same idiology when blowing up busses, "we didn't want to kill the people inside, we just wanted to destroy the bus".

Although I believe both sides [Palestine/Israel] have made mistakest; but you should not mouth them off like that, without even considering what they have been through. I believe if Saddam did the same thing to the Kurds (kicking out every Kurd from nothern Iraq and placing them ALL into a city the size of hawler) , there will be the exact same retaliation by the Kurds. Why should the Kurds have that right, but Palestinians don't? Double standards.

Finally, they have every right to retaliate, regardless of age. Before you tell me hat I am inhumane etc. for the killing of Israeli's, I have never said this. I don't think any civilian should die. I also don't believe its halal (allowed) to do suicide bombings; but if they do do this, it is not up to me to judge them, as they have their REASONS.

[Kurdistano]

I hate Palestinians. I have seen a video in which Palestinian kids are teached to be suicide terrorist.
I will post the link to that video on youtube later, I'm not making this up.

So all those muslims who say ''Look, Jews are killing innocent kids'' are fucking liars, like most of them. Israeli soldiers are killing child terrorists and kids who are trying to blow themselves up and kill innocent people, should not be considered as children in my eyes. They are evil and are in no way comparable to a Kurdish, Jewish, French or whatever kid of the same age. They should be stopped (so if necessary shot) to prevent more casualties. Including their families, who've teached them to become terrorists.

That is how Islam is.

And I hate Palestinians overall. Those fucking bastards waved with Iraqi flags and pictures of Saddam during the Anfal campaign. They are dogs and inhuman and Israel should kick them out of their land. Palestinians should not be allowed to live on Jewish land.

Please, don't talk about a couple of Palestinian kids learning how to be suicide bombers (although wrong) to avenge their fallen fathers and grand fathers, in the hands of the zionist regime.

You wanna know something funny? Israel attacks schools with the justification that Hamas "terrorists" (the people who were ELECTED by their own people) were using the site as a training camp, and didn't mean to kill and injure the kids inside it. Imagine hamas suicide bombers used the same idiology when blowing up busses, "we didn't want to kill the people inside, we just wanted to destroy the bus".

Although I believe both sides [Palestine/Israel] have made mistakest; but you should not mouth them off like that, without even considering what they have been through. I believe if Saddam did the same thing to the Kurds (kicking out every Kurd from nothern Iraq and placing them ALL into a city the size of hawler) , there will be the exact same retaliation by the Kurds. Why should the Kurds have that right, but Palestinians don't? Double standards.

Finally, they have every right to retaliate, regardless of age. Before you tell me hat I am inhumane etc. for the killing of Israeli's, I have never said this. I don't think any civilian should die. I also don't believe its halal (allowed) to do suicide bombings; but if they do do this, it is not up to me to judge them, as they have their REASONS.

Well If I am not wrong the Palestinians sold most of their land to Israelis while we get nothing. So its not exactly the same. Yet I think the best solution is a "two state" solution. However you have to admit Hamas is making much Bullshit too. Shooting rockets into the unknown. Israelis and Palestinians have started to hate each other so much that it looks impossible to me that they could live together in piece.

Though another thing you have to admit Palestinians have all rights Kurds in North Kurdistan (Turkey) can only dream of (for now) like full autonomy and everything what belongs to it.

[max_b]

I hate Palestinians. I have seen a video in which Palestinian kids are teached to be suicide terrorist.
I will post the link to that video on youtube later, I'm not making this up.

So all those muslims who say ''Look, Jews are killing innocent kids'' are fucking liars, like most of them. Israeli soldiers are killing child terrorists and kids who are trying to blow themselves up and kill innocent people, should not be considered as children in my eyes. They are evil and are in no way comparable to a Kurdish, Jewish, French or whatever kid of the same age. They should be stopped (so if necessary shot) to prevent more casualties. Including their families, who've teached them to become terrorists.

That is how Islam is.

And I hate Palestinians overall. Those fucking bastards waved with Iraqi flags and pictures of Saddam during the Anfal campaign. They are dogs and inhuman and Israel should kick them out of their land. Palestinians should not be allowed to live on Jewish land.

Please, don't talk about a couple of Palestinian kids learning how to be suicide bombers (although wrong) to avenge their fallen fathers and grand fathers, in the hands of the zionist regime.

You wanna know something funny? Israel attacks schools with the justification that Hamas "terrorists" (the people who were ELECTED by their own people) were using the site as a training camp, and didn't mean to kill and injure the kids inside it. Imagine hamas suicide bombers used the same idiology when blowing up busses, "we didn't want to kill the people inside, we just wanted to destroy the bus".

Although I believe both sides [Palestine/Israel] have made mistakest; but you should not mouth them off like that, without even considering what they have been through. I believe if Saddam did the same thing to the Kurds (kicking out every Kurd from nothern Iraq and placing them ALL into a city the size of hawler) , there will be the exact same retaliation by the Kurds. Why should the Kurds have that right, but Palestinians don't? Double standards.

Finally, they have every right to retaliate, regardless of age. Before you tell me hat I am inhumane etc. for the killing of Israeli's, I have never said this. I don't think any civilian should die. I also don't believe its halal (allowed) to do suicide bombings; but if they do do this, it is not up to me to judge them, as they have their REASONS.

ah hear we go again, another pro-palestian kurd

[Kurdistano]

ah hear we go again, another pro-palestian kurd

Did he claim to be Kurd?
I think he is Palestinian himself, and not so Anti Israel also. its good to hear the story from both perspectives.

[talsor]

Please, don't talk about a couple of Palestinian kids learning how to be suicide bombers (although wrong) to avenge their fallen fathers and grand fathers, in the hands of the zionist regime.

are you saying it is ok for a couple kurds to train their children to be suicide bombers(although wrong)to avenge their fallen fathers and grand fathers, in the hands of the fascist arabs and turks and persians ?

You wanna know something funny? Israel attacks schools with the justification that Hamas "terrorists" (the people who were ELECTED by their own people) were using the site as a training camp, and didn't mean to kill and injure the kids inside it. Imagine hamas suicide bombers used the same idiology when blowing up busses, "we didn't want to kill the people inside, we just wanted to destroy the bus".

are you seriously defending Hamas with their rockets targeting Israeli civilians ?

oh you mean when they do this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LGubwghyEw&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmXXUOs27lI&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

or this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmsAttgzD80&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

I'm not here to defend Israel , but Israel is the only democracy that exist in the middle east , so comparing their action with hamas's terrorist actions is laughable .

Although I believe both sides [Palestine/Israel] have made mistakest; but you should not mouth them off like that, without even considering what they have been through. I believe if Saddam did the same thing to the Kurds (kicking out every Kurd from nothern Iraq and placing them ALL into a city the size of hawler) , there will be the exact same retaliation by the Kurds. Why should the Kurds have that right, but Palestinians don't? Double standards.

People are free to like or dislike and usually for good reasons . Palestinian were also cheering for saddam and supporting him , how do you feel about that as a kurd ?

Secondly we are not terrorists and do not you dare to compare us with hamas and the rest of garbage organizations that kill and slaughter civilians . You do not seem to know much about Kurds . Saddam killed over 200 thousands kurds during Anfal , Several thousands during Halabja massacre , buried thousands of Kurds , men , women , children alive in the deserts and displaced millions of kurds and Yet we did not strap bombs to our chests and call it holy war against arabs did we ? how many arab civilian were killed by kurd after the fall of saddam ? ZERO right ? You can not as a human being with good conscience justify murder of innocent people .

[alan131210]

Destiny

Palestinians sold their land now they want to kill the new owners and take back by force ? How does that work?
and Saddam did kick us out of Kirkuk and replaced us with Arabs but we never sent rockets into Arab populated areas only gutless men would do such acts.

But we have now all returned home and kicked out those Arabs who had taken our property by the help of Saddam including my own family.

[Kawe]

Leave the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the Israelis and the Palestinians. We are Kurds, and should not care about their conflict since they have never cared about ours.

[destiny]

Please, don't talk about a couple of Palestinian kids learning how to be suicide bombers (although wrong) to avenge their fallen fathers and grand fathers, in the hands of the zionist regime.

are you saying it is ok for a couple kurds to train their children to be suicide bombers(although wrong)to avenge their fallen fathers and grand fathers, in the hands of the fascist arabs and turks and persians ?

You wanna know something funny? Israel attacks schools with the justification that Hamas "terrorists" (the people who were ELECTED by their own people) were using the site as a training camp, and didn't mean to kill and injure the kids inside it. Imagine hamas suicide bombers used the same idiology when blowing up busses, "we didn't want to kill the people inside, we just wanted to destroy the bus".

are you seriously defending Hamas with their rockets targeting Israeli civilians ?

oh you mean when they do this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LGubwghyEw&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmXXUOs27lI&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

or this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmsAttgzD80&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

I'm not here to defend Israel , but Israel is the only democracy that exist in the middle east , so comparing their action with hamas's terrorist actions is laughable .

Although I believe both sides [Palestine/Israel] have made mistakest; but you should not mouth them off like that, without even considering what they have been through. I believe if Saddam did the same thing to the Kurds (kicking out every Kurd from nothern Iraq and placing them ALL into a city the size of hawler) , there will be the exact same retaliation by the Kurds. Why should the Kurds have that right, but Palestinians don't? Double standards.

People are free to like or dislike and usually for good reasons . Palestinian were also cheering for saddam and supporting him , how do you feel about that as a kurd ?

Secondly we are not terrorists and do not you dare to compare us with hamas and the rest of garbage organizations that kill and slaughter civilians . You do not seem to know much about Kurds . Saddam killed over 200 thousands kurds during Anfal , Several thousands during Halabja massacre , buried thousands of Kurds , men , women , children alive in the deserts and displaced millions of kurds and Yet we did not strap bombs to our chests and call it holy war against arabs did we ? how many arab civilian were killed by kurd after the fall of saddam ? ZERO right ? You can not as a human being with good conscience justify murder of innocent people .

Please read my post, where I clearly said killing civilians is wrong. Again, I did say strapping a suicide vest is wrong too as it constitutes as suicide (which is wrong in my opinion). However, killing soldiers of the army that has torn many families apart in Palestine and has killed CIVILIANS (I can provide too many examples of this), I believe its justifiable to retaliate. Also, the many houses being built on occupied territory by the Israelis is as wrong as Saddam taking the many houses by force from the people of Kirkuk.

However, ultimately, Palestine is nothing compared to Israel (in terms of military power). Palestine isn't even a threat with all the nukes, surface-to-air missiles, new anti-missile defence systems that Israel has. I sometimes think Israel lets them attack their own people, to justify the blockade they have imposed on Palestine.

Finally, yes I am a Kurd, but what has the got to do with anything? The illegal blockade on Gaza and the West Bank is inhumane and is immoral; so is the expansion of Israel into Palestinian land and the numerous human rights violations Israel has conducted.

[Hamas is also wrong for killing Civilians, so please don't bring this up again - I agree]



Regarding the "terrorist" acts. Do you think PKK is wrong, and should not try and avenge the Turkish occupation of Kurdish land? If yes, then you should not try to reclaim the land as it is "Turkish" and you have no rights in defending your home land with your own "army", as the army of "Eastern Turkey" is the Turkish army and not PKK.