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Re: An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

PostAuthor: brendar » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:04 pm

Destiny

Why haven't I seen any of your posts talking about kurdish issues? Are we here to talk about arab terrorists or kurdish issues?

Please dont mess up this forum by comparing those merciless people with Kurds.

Anyway, here is a palastinian forum which you can argue whatever you want:


http://www.israelpalestineforum.com/forum/
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Re: An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

PostAuthor: destiny » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:13 pm

brendar wrote:Destiny

Why haven't I seen any of your posts talking about kurdish issues? Are we here to talk about arab terrorists or kurdish issues?

Please dont mess up this forum by comparing those merciless people with Kurds.

Anyway, here is a palastinian forum which you can argue whatever you want:


http://www.israelpalestineforum.com/forum/


Sorry brendar, I actually only recently joined to ask about the borokay thing (where you also posted), and I'm going to start sticking to the Kurdish side of things; but I was just voicing my opinion, that's all.

Thanks for your reply anyways

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Re: An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:37 pm

destiny wrote:Please read my post, where I clearly said killing civilians is wrong. Again, I did say strapping a suicide vest is wrong too as it constitutes as suicide (which is wrong in my opinion). However, killing soldiers of the army that has torn many families apart in Palestine and has killed CIVILIANS (I can provide too many examples of this), I believe its justifiable to retaliate. Also, the many houses being built on occupied territory by the Israelis is as wrong as Saddam taking the many houses by force from the people of Kirkuk.


Although it is not what you said earlier , but fair enough .



destiny wrote:However, ultimately, Palestine is nothing compared to Israel (in terms of military power). Palestine isn't even a threat with all the nukes, surface-to-air missiles, new anti-missile defence systems that Israel has. I sometimes think Israel lets them attack their own people, to justify the blockade they have imposed on Palestine.


Good for Israel and God forbid if the situation was reversed .

destiny wrote:Finally, yes I am a Kurd, but what has the got to do with anything? The illegal blockade on Gaza and the West Bank is inhumane and is immoral; so is the expansion of Israel into Palestinian land and the numerous human rights violations Israel has conducted.


I do not want to get into defending Israel or crying over Palestinian . I frankly do not care .

destiny wrote:Regarding the "terrorist" acts. Do you think PKK is wrong, and should not try and avenge the Turkish occupation of Kurdish land? If yes, then you should not try to reclaim the land as it is "Turkish" and you have no rights in defending your home land with your own "army", as the army of "Eastern Turkey" is the Turkish army and not PKK.


Kuro heval tu basi ce akey :-D ?
PKK is fighting for Kurdish rights in turkey . They are not blowing themselves up in Pizza shops or cafeterias or shooting rockets in civilian areas or blowing up buses full of Turkish tourists . are you kidding me ? This is not our culture and every Kurd will condemn their action if they do so . Even their military actions against Turkish military is criticized by some Kurdish leaders who believe that dialogue is the way to resolve the Kurdish question .
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Re: An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

PostAuthor: Saipul » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:12 am

Fact: 71% of Kurds support establishing relations with Israel -- http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/21/ ... 253532305/

Fact: Islamists only got 1.5% of the votes in the last election in Southern Kurdistan

I often wonder why I meet so many Islamist Kurds in the West, whereas I've never met even one back home. Is it because Kurds in the EU/NA are hanging out around Arabs/Turks all the time?

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Re: An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

PostAuthor: talsor » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:03 am

Saipul wrote:Fact: 71% of Kurds support establishing relations with Israel -- http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/21/ ... 253532305/

Fact: Islamists only got 1.5% of the votes in the last election in Southern Kurdistan

I often wonder why I meet so many Islamist Kurds in the West, whereas I've never met even one back home. Is it because Kurds in the EU/NA are hanging out around Arabs/Turks all the time?


Not every one who speak a couple kurdish words is Kurdish . Many pretend to be Kurdish and it is not hard to tell who is what .
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Re: An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

PostAuthor: unitedkurdistan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:28 am

talsor wrote:
Saipul wrote:Fact: 71% of Kurds support establishing relations with Israel -- http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/21/ ... 253532305/

Fact: Islamists only got 1.5% of the votes in the last election in Southern Kurdistan

I often wonder why I meet so many Islamist Kurds in the West, whereas I've never met even one back home. Is it because Kurds in the EU/NA are hanging out around Arabs/Turks all the time?


Not every one who speak a couple kurdish words is Kurdish . Many pretend to be Kurdish and it is not hard to tell who is what .



That reminds me of how SImko would go and hunt azeris, many of the azeris knew kurdish but there was always a word the turks would pronunciate wrong and he used that word to check who is Kurd and who is not. But i can't remember the world.

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Re: An Israeli Plane lands in Erbil

PostAuthor: brendar » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:20 pm

Saipul wrote:Fact: 71% of Kurds support establishing relations with Israel -- http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/21/ ... 253532305/

Fact: Islamists only got 1.5% of the votes in the last election in Southern Kurdistan

I often wonder why I meet so many Islamist Kurds in the West, whereas I've never met even one back home. Is it because Kurds in the EU/NA are hanging out around Arabs/Turks all the time?


You are right.

In Europe, most of the kurds hang out with either arabs, pakistanis, afghanis, turks etc. However, those people are all religious without knowledge. In the meanwhile, they hate israel just because they heard that israel is killing muslim palastinians. Basically, they look at one side of the story and avoid looking at the other.

Whats more interesting, those islamists have been killing millions of kurds, denying their identity, nation etc, and still our kurds defend those terrorist arabs and Palestinians. #-o
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