At least 10 dead in Paris shooting - French media

[Piling]

http://imgur.com/gallery/zd5rl

Arab newspapers around the world react to Charlie Hebdo attack.

I wonder if some will accuse these Arab newspapers of 'islamophobia'.

[Anthea]

Reuters

Islamic State praise Paris attackers as 'heroic jihadists'++
(Reporting by Rania El Gamal; Editing by Toby Chopra)

The Islamic State militant group praised the gunmen behind this week's killings at the Paris headquarters of the Charlie Hebdo weekly newspaper as "heroic jihadists", a monitoring group said on Friday.

The SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors radical Islamist organizations in the media, said Islamic State praised the gunmen in a brief note in its daily audio bulletin, which was distributed on Twitter and jihadi forums on Thursday.

"We start our bulletin with France. Heroic jihadists killed 12 journalists and wounded ten others working in the French magazine Charlie Hebdo, and that was support for our master (Prophet) Mohammad, may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him," according to the audio bulletin.

In France, armed and masked anti-terrorism police swooped on woodland villages northeast of Paris in a manhunt for two brothers suspected of carrying out Wednesday's attack on Charlie Hebdo, a satirical newspaper which had published cartoons of Islam's Prophet Mohammad as well as other religious and political figures.

Ten journalists and two police officers were killed in the attack, which has raised questions of security in the Western world and beyond.

Many Muslims consider any depiction of the Prophet Mohammad to be against Islam.

Islamic State is a powerful militant group which has captured broad swathes of Iraqi and Syrian territory.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/ ... JE20150109

[Piling]

The final assault of the Jewish supermarket in Vincennes. Clearly, we can see a corpse lying before the assault and some seconds after the first shots, the Jihadist running front of the forces, and be shot at the end.

Then dozens of frightened hostages rushing out the store, and a wounded policeman drawn apart by his team.

[RomaMater]

If you want to understand what was Charlie Hebdo, here is the cover of their last special issue :



So no need for them to be defend by all European Fascists parties.

and the one which expresses the best the spirit of the newspaper :

And this motivates Christians to go on a murderous rampage? I've seem blasphemous magazine covers like this in America more than a few times. Maybe 1,000 years ago Christians would've gone apeshit.

One huge, fundamental difference between the Christians and the Muslims is this: we Christians consider it an honor to be hated, mocked, made fun of, abused, etc. for our Lord who said: “Blessed are you who are persecuted for My sake" and also "And He said to them all, 'If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.' The history of Christian martyrs doesn't have bombs, guns, etc. Tertullian wrote that 'the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.'

I have been insulted many times for being a Christian by various sorts: atheists, jews, muslims, nazis/neo-nazis, red commies, so-called christians, etc.

I have never killed anyone who has mocked the Lord Jesus Christ.

[Londoner]

11 dead at the last update.



The weapons were rocket and kalashinikov. The 2 killers fled in Paris and now French forces run after them.

Hot ambiance in Paris

This is absolutely horrendous - I hope your building is secure

If this happened in England there would be a terrible backlash

In England most people do not like Muslims - I imagine it is the same in France - things will be a lot worse now on

On 7/7 atrocity, no back clash took place. Apart from skin heads and hooligans, no one in England hates other minorities.

[Londoner]

I know tha I have mentioned my friends before on this forum - but Jag (Indian gentleman) and Webby (Jamaican gentleman) did much to increase peoples understanding of different cultures

Jag with his only world week (2 week multicultural festival of activities (he also started the English language schemes to teach newcomers English - the government of the time decided to withdraw funding and support Black History month instead )

Webby with The Melting Pot Foundation (designed to have people from different cultures working together and holding assorted multi-cultural functions in schools and colleges as well as providing outreach projects)

I had the privilege of working with both these two lovely gentlemen

We helped people who genuinely needed help - all of the helpers (mostly volunteers) took strangers into their own homes - we shared our homes and our knowledge

Now people from different ethnic groups do not mix - many of the more recent minorities coming to the UK are

A) Not genuine refugees

B) Liars and cheats

C) Hate other other so-called refugees

D) Even openly insult other minorities (seems that only white people get into trouble saying anything against someone of a different race seriously unjust)

E) People from the small Caribbean islands hate Jamaicans - Jamaicans hate smallies and often refer to them as monkey eaters

F) Most Pakistanis openly insult Indians and in their comedy clubs Indians bear the brunt of most Pakistani jokes (I have never been to a Hindu comedy club because I have not yet find one that allows white people in )

G) Several African tribes not only hate those from other African tribes - they often have fights in the streets or clubs

H) Due to the influx of non-genuine refugees/asylum seekers UK social service/education/housing/hospitals/doctors cannot cope

I) It goes without saying - Turks hate Kurds - Kurds hate Turks

... and Philipinoes hate philipinoes, actually English hate English, Scots hate Scots and English, members of the same family hate each other.....etc!!!!

Humans are the prisoners of survival and culture. There are not such things like 'welfare tourists'. All minorities coming to this country are genuine, they are not cheaters and liars. These minorities seek survival and better life, which is a natural right to do so but the complexity of life, like human made laws, doesn't let it happen easily. We all compete to seek survival and find a better a better life, naturally we don't like our competitors, they are bad, they compete against us to survive and get a better life. In parallel to this, we are culturally conditioned to look at outsiders, competitors, in a negative way.

The two unfortunate brothers committed the atrocity in Paris are the products of the same ideology, which invented the phrase: 'welfare tourists' or cheating and lying minorities'.

[Anthea]

Now evacuation hotel Disney Paris

Piling what is happening there ?

[Piling]

False alarm, as I read. An unstable woman claiming that she was going to explode everything.

[Anthea]

There are not such things like 'welfare tourists'. All minorities coming to this country are genuine, they are not cheaters and liars. These minorities seek survival and better life, which is a natural right to do so but the complexity of life, like human made laws, doesn't let it happen easily. We all compete to seek survival and find a better a better life, naturally we don't like our competitors, they are bad, they compete against us to survive and get a better life. In parallel to this, we are culturally conditioned to look at outsiders, competitors, in a negative way.

Sadly you are very mistaken. People who claim asylum are only supposed to do so if their life is at risk - or if they are victims of torture etc - not if they want to make more money.

Many Kurds who came here from all parts of Kurdistan were victims of torture - have lost family members - some suffering the effects of having their entire families killed - some still live in fear in UK and keep changing their names - one entire extended family will never be able to return to Turkey for a holiday because their very surname will get them killed

I have heard terrible horror stories and seen many a grown man cry - one friend I have had for 20 years still is not able to tell what happened to him because it was so horrendous

But I have also seen the very nasty other side - people from many different cultures who claim benefits while working - people who employ non-English speakers for a few pounds and a few meals - even people who hit there workers - non-English speakers have nobody to complain to

One friend took on a relation in his restaurant business - taught him everything including English - because my friend is ill and in constant pain he took the man a business partner - we discovered the man was claiming benefits - including disability benefits as he claimed he was in too much pain to walk - stealing from the business - my friend ended up with so many financial problems he lost his HOME and almost lost his business - he lost a fortune - the other man built a house in Turkey and had enough money to open his own restaurant - and we think he is still claiming benefits

For every genuine refugee I have come across - I have come across at least 20 who are not genuine - this goes across ALL ethnic groups claiming asylum in UK - a lady who uses this very forum is fighting to prevent a certain man from having access to her baby - the man promised love and marriage - all he wanted was a baby so that he could use the child as a reason to remain in UK

I have belonged to many organisations that help refugees - I write have as the only refugees I will help now are Kurds - as for the rest I would estimate over 95% are NOT genuine refugees

[Anthea]

False alarm, as I read. An unstable woman claiming that she was going to explode everything.

That is the last thing you need with everyone there on a heightened state of awareness

[Piling]

As expected, it will happen often, and slowly we are going to get used of it.

[Anthea]

As expected, it will happen often, and slowly we are going to get used of it.

But for you and other living and working in Paris - it will mean living under a very high level of security - and as you previously stated - there will be extra security security on public buildings and museums

If anyone were to accidentally leave a shopping bag unattended - entire shopping precincts will be instantly cleared

Actually there is a very real danger that people will become injured in their rush to run away from suspect packages

With the increase in the barbaric acts of the Islamic State many Muslims business in the North of England have been losing trade - in some areas people are requesting non-Muslim taxi drivers - due to the recent attack I imagine things will become worse

[Piling]

Vigie pirate plan is a high level of safety and watching measures : checking luggages, opening bags, safety perimeter forbidden to cars front of schools, etc. We are used of it, it is set since decades in Paris, just the level of alert can vary.

Concerning the irrational fear of muslim places, in fact, people are more inclined to consider Jewish places as dangerous because they are targets. Today the Shabat ceremonies are cancelled for safety.

It is forbidden by law to have such requests – discriminating by ethnie or origin. Most of the time, some taxis refuse to take people they do not like for racist reasons, or homophobia. Customers can complain legally. But if we consider the terrible lack of taxis in Paris, be sure that no one will refuse one for such reasons or it will be a good luck for other people craving about a car.

Now many media and social network praise the role of a young Malian who saved several jews in the grocery by hiding them in the frozen room. Beside, there are some offencies against mosques (tags, pork heads throwing inside, etc), not so much. There are also many anti jewish aggressions since months (Palestine comflict inflame Muslims amd Jews in France).

Btw, the GF of the Jewish killer has fled in Syria via Turkey 1 week before the attack, with a Jihadist. The most disgusting is that Ahmet Davutoglu is expected tomorrow to the big demonstration in Paris.

[Londoner]

Sadly you are very mistaken. People who claim asylum are only supposed to do so if their life is at risk - or if they are victims of torture etc - not if they want to make more money.

Many Kurds who came here from all parts of Kurdistan were victims of torture - have lost family members - some suffering the effects of having their entire families killed - some still live in fear in UK and keep changing their names - one entire extended family will never be able to return to Turkey for a holiday because their very surname will get them killed

I have heard terrible horror stories and seen many a grown man cry - one friend I have had for 20 years still is not able to tell what happened to him because it was so horrendous

But I have also seen the very nasty other side - people from many different cultures who claim benefits while working - people who employ non-English speakers for a few pounds and a few meals - even people who hit there workers - non-English speakers have nobody to complain to

One friend took on a relation in his restaurant business - taught him everything including English - because my friend is ill and in constant pain he took the man a business partner - we discovered the man was claiming benefits - including disability benefits as he claimed he was in too much pain to walk - stealing from the business - my friend ended up with so many financial problems he lost his HOME and almost lost his business - he lost a fortune - the other man built a house in Turkey and had enough money to open his own restaurant - and we think he is still claiming benefits

For every genuine refugee I have come across - I have come across at least 20 who are not genuine - this goes across ALL ethnic groups claiming asylum in UK - a lady who uses this very forum is fighting to prevent a certain man from having access to her baby - the man promised love and marriage - all he wanted was a baby so that he could use the child as a reason to remain in UK

I have belonged to many organisations that help refugees - I write have as the only refugees I will help now are Kurds - as for the rest I would estimate over 95% are NOT genuine refugees

That is the real human nature. What do you think humans are, Angels? certainly not. A human is nothing more than an opportunist animal competes and seeks to survive. As humans we have been culturally conditioned and have moral values but when an opportunity, which has a survival value, arises it overcomes our cultural and moral values. The refugee, whom you and the restaurant owner helped, because he got opportunities with survival values, forgot all his moral values. He falsely claimed benefits, disability allowances and stole from the restaurant. I, you and the restaurant owner would have done some thing similar if we were at his position and got the opportunity.

All refugees are genuine by the law of nature. Because they have the right to seek better chances of survival and a better life. If they misuse the actual system, which helps them, that will be a different situation, that is a crime but it has nothing to do with their right to increase their chances of survival and a better life.

[Piling]

Orban, Davutoglu, Netanyahou… So Hollande has decided to invite in Paris all the bloody guys in the world to support freedom of press.

Now he can invite Assad, no need to snubb him.