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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Anthea » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:32 pm

SHAMELESS EU CORRUPTION:
Brit MEP reveals ‘You could trouser £800 a week – tax free’

EUROPEAN politicians can EARN money while travelling and spend thousands without submitting receipts to rake in a higher salary than the Prime Minister, an MEP has admitted.

Despite certain job loss if Britain chooses Brexit, British Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Daniel Hannan has spoken out about the insane spending taking place across member states.

Mr Hannan describes his own experiences of the EU rules on minister remuneration as ‘corrupting’ and has bizarrely urged the British public to ‘sack’ him.

The now vehement ‘out’ politician recalled his first day in the office after being elected MEP for South East England in 1999.

Having arrived in Brussels he told how he was told to hand over his plane ticket for reimbursement, but was shocked when he was offered much more than the ticket’s face value.

The sum was 'so large' Mr Hannan said, he assumed there had been a mistake made.

But, the surprised MEP was informed it was the correct “kilometre rate” from London.


The bottom line — as I discovered — is that, without doing anything improper, an MEP who makes full use of his allowances can take home, net, considerably more than the British Prime Minister

Daniel Hannan, MEP



He later discovered he was to be reimbursed on the basis of the priciest notional fare, plus an extra ‘time and distance allowance’.

He said: “The bottom line — as I discovered — is that, without doing anything improper, an MEP who makes full use of his allowances can take home, net, considerably more than the British Prime Minister.

Even on a top business class fare, you could make a tidy sum.

"If you flew EasyJet, you could trouser the better part of £800 a week — tax-free, because it counted as expenses rather than income.”

Mr Hannan was then informed he was entitled to a £3,500 ‘bloc grant’ to spend how he chose on expenses, for which he need not provide a receipt.

Describing himself as a lover of European nation states Tory MEP Mr Hannan said he has lived and worked all over the content, but he can no longer see a future for Europe.

And, he said many of those who are keen to stay in, are thinking of their own purses.

He said: “I know several MEPs who came to Brussels without feeling especially strongly about closer integration, but who drank in federalist assumptions as they guzzled down their allowances.

“What is true of the MEPs is equally true of the many giant corporations, mega-charities, think-tanks, professional associations and lobbyists who make a living out of the Brussels system.

“These groups are, as you might expect, the Praetorian Guard of the Remain campaign.

“For their executives, staying in the EU is not about sovereignty or democracy; it’s about mortgages and school fees.”

But money is not the only reason Mr Hannan wants to lose his job.

Among the things lost to Europe or delighted because of membership are the rule of law, parliamentary democracy and personal liberty the politician said.

David Cameron's renegotiation on Europe has not been good enough according to MEP Daniel Hannan

He said: “We often half-pretend that we are dealing with some fantasy EU, one that rises above the grubbiness of politics and embodies a lofty ideal. It seems almost bad taste to look in too much detail at the one which has, in fact, taken shape before us, with its dodgy accounts and its private jets.

“The trouble is that, in its determination to jam its nations together, it recognises no distinction between cross-border and domestic spheres.

“Why should it be up to Brussels to ban traditional light bulbs and oblige us to have the dimmer sort (many imported from China, at great cost to the environment)? Or dictate to us about high-power vacuum cleaners, hair-dryers, toasters and other electrical appliances?

“It’s not that the EU is necessarily wrong about all these things. But how did we reach the stage where such issues are decided by a Continent-wide bureaucracy and then handed down uniformly to 600 million people?”

European politicians can make money just by travelling to work in Brussels

MEP Daniel Hannan wants Britain to leave the European Union

And for Mr Hannan the vote comes down to who should be running Britain.

He said: “The hassle of opening a bank account? That’s the EU’s Money Laundering Directive. The end of weekly recycling collections? That’s the Landfill Directive. The ban on minimum alcohol pricing? That’s the Technical Standards Directive.

“These laws are not agreements among states. They are the legislative acts of an entity that itself aspires to statehood.

“The promises on which the EU was built have proved false. European integration was supposed to make people wealthier, but the EU has fallen further and further behind in relative terms, from 30 per cent of the world economy in 1980 to 17 per cent today.

“My simple plea to you when you vote in the referendum in June is this: Help me abolish my well-remunerated and comfortable position. Please, please sack me.” :ymapplause:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/659928 ... icians-MEP
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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:02 pm

That's probably why all the anti EU parties, from French FN to UKIP have MP in Strasburg and that Farrage has not already resigned. :ymdevil:


More seriously I think that the greatest scandal in EU parliament is ghost MP's. French parties (except Greens) are champions in that bad competition.
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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Anthea » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:21 pm

Piling wrote:That's probably why all the anti EU parties, from French FN to UKIP have MP in Strasburg and that Farrage has not already resigned. :ymdevil:

More seriously I think that the greatest scandal in EU parliament is ghost MP's. French parties (except Greens) are champions in that bad competition.


Never heard of them - do they sign in and then go to the pub :ymsigh:
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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:45 pm

They don't even make the effort to take the train and stay in Paris. I think they should be paid by days of effective presence in Parliament, as any ordinary people.
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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Anthea » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:04 pm

Piling wrote:They don't even make the effort to take the train and stay in Paris. I think they should be paid by days of effective presence in Parliament, as any ordinary people.


Obviously the entire system needs an overhaul - glad the UK is free :ymparty:
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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Londoner » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:17 pm

Anthea wrote:You missed my earlier statement:

Originally it was a free trade zone called the common market - nothing to do with political oppression and manipulation

When our than PM Ted Heath took us in - we were told it was just a free trade area and it will be good for jobs - that is basically all we were told at the time of joining

Once we had joined we were doomed - UK power was slowly eroded and EU becoming evermore powerful - now it is a fully fledged bureaucratic dictatorship with very little in the way of democracy

Over 50% of laws in UK come straight from a committee of unelected EU bureaucrats into UK law without our elected MPs having any say in them - we have been dictated to


The British public NEVER consented - and would never have knowing consented - to joining the EU as it stands today X(


Free trade zone means free movement of goods, services and labour. Especially UK economy is desperate to have lower skilled labour from EU on a large scale. Without these class of labour almost all businesses go out of business or has to reduce their operation. This leads to negative growth, which causes a serious long term recession. But Brexiteers don't comprehend this serious damage. The hidden agenda of EU was to create free movement of labour within EU to bring down the high cost of local labour. This was one of the reasons for UK to join to benefit big and small business. As a self-employed removal man whenever I need labour I go to a place, where labourers from EU waiting for work, to get helpers. Thousands of other small businesses do like me. When this labour force disappears thousands of businesses have to increase their charge or go out of business. It will be very expensive to hire local labour.

But I think there is a light at the end of tunnel. There is a way to avoid this self-inflicted destruction as USA Foreign secretary stated.
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:40 am

Londoner wrote:Free trade zone means free movement of goods, services and labour. Especially UK economy is desperate to have lower skilled labour from EU on a large scale. Without these class of labour almost all businesses go out of business or has to reduce their operation. This leads to negative growth, which causes a serious long term recession. But Brexiteers don't comprehend this serious damage. The hidden agenda of EU was to create free movement of labour within EU to bring down the high cost of local labour. This was one of the reasons for UK to join to benefit big and small business. As a self-employed removal man whenever I need labour I go to a place, where labourers from EU waiting for work, to get helpers. Thousands of other small businesses do like me. When this labour force disappears thousands of businesses have to increase their charge or go out of business. It will be very expensive to hire local labour.

But I think there is a light at the end of tunnel. There is a way to avoid this self-inflicted destruction as USA Foreign secretary stated.


We joined a free trade organisation

We ended up having over 50% of our laws being forced onto our statute books by unelected committees in the EU

Prior to the influx of EU non-English speakers, UK had an extremely good workforce from the Commonwealth

As I mentioned previously: Commonwealth citizens flocked here to fight, and often, die for mother England during WW2

After the war many thousands returned to help rebuild the UK

Our hospitals, our railways, our buses. our factories were full of Commonwealth workers

Now it is almost impossible for people from non-EU countries to obtain work in UK

I think it is shameful the way in which the UK has turned against those who supported us

As for not being able to find workers, UK job centres are full of those seeking work

Cards in shop windows still attract part-time workers such as gardeners, painters and decorators, general unskilled workers etc

We have/had a friend who as a qualified surgeon applied to work in the UK

The UK is desperate for people with his skills

But he could NOT obtain a position here because he was not in the EU

Any employer should have the right to employ the best person for a job wherever they come from

I am extremely happy that the UK is finally leaving the racist dictatorship of the EU :ymapplause:
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PostAuthor: Londoner » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:46 am

I am extremely happy that the UK is finally leaving the racist dictatorship of the EU


Brexiteers voted against migration to this country and by migration Brexiteers mean migration from commonwealth. It may be easy for highly qualified migrants like doctors come to this country but for the lower skilled labour from commonwealth, it will be impossible for them to come to this country. If we exit EU completely, we will suffer severely from shortages of lower level skilled labour. This will sky high rockets the cost of local lower level skilled labour. This causes inflation and recession on the long run. The first industry would suffer would be house building industry. it will come to the standstill. My EU lodgers working in building industry, as cheap labour, earning £120.00 a day. House building companies have to pay twice of that for local labour if we really leave EU completely. This causes the price of exiting properties to go sky high, which is another thing good for me but I am not happy about it. Brexit is good for my business and my property but I am not happy. It is cashing on misery of others.

But as I see the signs I can see light at the end of tunnel. There is a way to avoid this highly self-inflicted destruction. The parliament can veto it. The queen can veto it. The least would be not to invoke article 50.
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PostAuthor: Londoner » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:54 am

The now vehement ‘out’ politician recalled his first day in the office after being elected MEP for South East England in 1999.


What a corrupted MEP. Since 1999, he was on EU payroll, he didn't speak out. He was quiet happy to get all the EU corrupted money. But now he come out to speak. Because he thinks he will not get it any more. A thief grasses other thieves because he can not get any more share of the loot. :)) :)) :)) :))

He must be one of the most honest Brexiteers. =)) =)) =)) =))
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:58 am

I thought that Brexiters voted against coming of migrants. I doubt that UKIP welcomes brown foreigners from Commonwealth if a white Polish is too much for them.

Not sure that UKIP loves Indians, for example.

I am extremely happy that the UK is finally leaving the racist dictatorship of the EU :ymapplause:


Technically, that can be called xenophobia but nor racism.

My fear is that UK government will refuse to state officially to EU the Brexit and let things decaying in a no-out no-inside situation. Because they don't give the feeling that they know what they want.

In fact I wish that Brexit could be achieved in the fastest way.
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:05 am

We are hoping for an Australian points system on immigration

UK urgently needs more skilled workers

Cheap labour earning £120.00 a day, a great many Kurds work in Kebab shops for less than that :ymdevil:

Also it is estimated that well over 60% of those living in social housing and receiving benefits are doing undeclared cash-in-hand jobs, window cleaning, gardening or simple grass cutting, car washing, painting, decorating, odd-jobs, flat-pack furniture building, house cleaning, dog walking, ebay trading, car boot sales, leaflet delivery, the list is probably endless

I cannot remember the figures off hand but something like 70% of the UK workforce is unskilled labour
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:20 am

A bonus for the UK will be the rise in tourists from abroad and UK holidaymakers wishing to remain here and spend their money HERE

For the past few years Spain has been losing it's appeal for UK tourists, many once popular nightclubs have closed

More recently, Greece and the surrounding areas, has seen it's tourist trade plummeting

Not many people want to holiday in Turkey

London and other places of historical interest could do extremely well :D
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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:18 am

By the way, someone has decided to not clean all the mess he generated in the country, lol :



Boris Johnson Says He Isn’t Seeking to Replace British Prime Minister David Cameron


http://www.wsj.com/articles/theresa-may ... 467276957/

That's we call in French a "dégonflé" /:)
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:10 pm

Piling wrote:By the way, someone has decided to not clean all the mess he generated in the country, lol :

Boris Johnson Says He Isn’t Seeking to Replace British Prime Minister David Cameron

http://www.wsj.com/articles/theresa-may ... 467276957/

That's we call in French a "dégonflé" /:)


Theresa May is a very experienced MP

Boris left to give her a clear run at the leadership after a poll showing May as the favourite among the voters

Boris is loveable but also very realistic :D
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Re: BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:30 pm

Anthea wrote:A bonus for the UK will be the rise in tourists from abroad and UK holidaymakers wishing to remain here and spend their money HERE

For the past few years Spain has been losing it's appeal for UK tourists, many once popular nightclubs have closed

More recently, Greece and the surrounding areas, has seen it's tourist trade plummeting

Not many people want to holiday in Turkey

London and other places of historical interest could do extremely well :D


With a low money that's right. Later, I wonder if UK will ask a visa for EU tourists. Even in Turkey you can enter with just an ID.
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