BREXIT : a good lesson for other UE members

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Headline of Libération : After Brexit, Boxit


http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/0 ... ge_1463152

[Anthea]

Headline of Libération : After Brexit, Boxit


http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/0 ... ge_1463152

I feel sorry for Boris - he put a great deal of energy and enthusiasm into freeing us

[Londoner]

By the way, someone has decided to not clean all the mess he generated in the country, lol :



Boris Johnson Says He Isn’t Seeking to Replace British Prime Minister David Cameron


http://www.wsj.com/articles/theresa-may ... 467276957/

That's we call in French a "dégonflé"

I knew it, I knew it!!! I knew he regretted it on Friday, the day after election. The Boris of late morning Friday 24th of June, 2016 was not the same Boris of Wednesday 22nd of June 16, the last day of campaign on BBC debate. On 22nd of June 16 during debate in support of Brexit, he was full of energy and thriving. Brexiteers were cheering him as he was a big celebrity like Elton Johnes. But on late morning on Friday 24th June 16, when he came out to speak, I didn't see a shred of happiness of his face. His face was the face of a disappointed person. I was surprised. But after he started speaking immediately I realised he was regretting for what he has done. He realised the gravity of the damage he has caused.

According to todays evening standard, he was backstabbed by Brexiteer MPs because he wrote an article in daily telegraph, stating that UK relationship with EU was more important than immigration.

[Londoner]

Another joke:

When Brexiteers marked 'Leave' on referendum ballot paper, they didn't know it meant for UK to leave EU. They thought it meant to tell migrants to Leave UK. Otherwise they would have voted to stay in EU. This explains why HRH MP Boris Johnson on Thursday voted 'Leave'. On the following day he regretted it.

[Anthea]

Wanted in Russia:
EU court blocked suspected Istanbul attack mastermind from extradition in 2010

A Chechen national suspected of being the mastermind behind the deadly Istanbul airport terrorist attack, earlier received refugee status in Austria, which helped him to repeatedly avoid extradition to Russia on terror charges.

The fatal attack on the Istanbul airport that took lives of 44 people and left more than 230 injured was allegedly organized by Ahmed Chataev, a Russian citizen of Chechen origin, who joined Islamic State (IS, former ISIS/ISIL) in 2015 and now fights in Syria, Turkish media report, citing police sources.

Chataev was assigned a leading role in training extremists that would then commit terrorist attacks in both Russia and Western Europe, the Deputy Chairman of the Russian Investigative Committee Andrey Przhezdomsky said, adding that, in Syria, Chataev also commands a unit consisting “primarily of immigrants from the North Caucasus,” Russia's Kommersant newspaper reported earlier this year.

Chataev turned out to be long wanted by the Russian authorities for terrorism-related offenses but he fled to Europe, where he was granted asylum, and successfully managed to escape extradition to Russia.

Chataev joined Islamist secessionist militants that fought against Russia in the Second Chechen War between 1999 and 2000, where he lost an arm. Later, he was considered to be a representative of Dokka Umarov, once a “terrorist №1” in Russia, in the Western Europe.

The eyed Istanbul airport attack mastermind was on a wanted list in Russia since 2003 for sponsoring terrorism, recruiting extremists and membership in a terrorist group, Russian media report. However, in the same year, he received asylum in Austria. Chataev reportedly claimed that he lost his arm as he was severely tortured in Russian prison adding that he is being persecuted by Russian authorities.

In 2008, he was detained with some other Chechen nationals in the Swedish town of Trelleborg as police found Kalashnikov assault rifles, explosives and ammunition in his car. As a result, he spent more than a year in Swedish prison.

In 2010, Chataev was arrested in Ukraine with his mobile phone files containing a demolition technique instruction and photos of people killed in a blast. Russia requested his extradition on terrorism-related charges but the European Court for Human Rights ordered Ukraine not to hand him over to Russia with Amnesty International also urging Ukrainian authorities to halt extradition as Chataev “could face an unfair trial and would be at risk of torture and other ill-treatment.”

A year later, he was once again detained as he was crossing the border between Turkey and Bulgaria but he again avoided extradition because of the interference of human rights organizations that stressed Chataev had a refugee status in Austria and thus cannot be sent to Russia, Kommersant reported.

Between 2012 and 2015, Chataev reportedly lived in Georgia, where he also joined some terrorist groups and served a prison sentence on terrorism-related charges.

In February 2015, he left Georgia for Syria, where he joined IS militants and soon took a high position in the Islamic State hierarchy. In October 2015, the US Justice Ministry added Chataev to the terrorist list because of his alleged involvement into recruitment of extremists.

https://www.rt.com/news/349063-istanbul ... nd-asylum/

UK has many such people we ar unable to deport, even those who openly support ISIS on our streets

[Anthea]

Iceland wants UK to join Nordic alliance of non-EU countries

After knocking England out of the European football, Iceland hopes Britain will join a new union after Brexit, shaping a northern "super-triangle" together with Norway.

“When Britain leaves the EU, we will see a triangle that covers a large part of the globe: Greenland, Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Norway - and now the United Kingdom,” said Iceland’s President Olafur Ragnar Grimsson.

The countries do not belong to the European Economic Area (EEA) or any part of the EU.

Grimsson suggests that after Brexit, the countries will potentially play a big role.

“It is about trade, diplomacy, commodities and several other fields,” Grimsson said, stressing that the Arctic, or the far north, would become more important not only in a European, but in a global context as well.

Our least bad #Brexit option is the EEA: the EU, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein would need to agree.

We have no Liechtenstein embassy.

— (((Douglas Dowell))) (@dijdowell)

The European Free Trade Association (EFTA), made up of Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland, will also become much more relevant after UK’s escape from the European bloc, according to the president.

“It is of course up to the British to decide what to do, but this could give the EFTA partners a more important role than in previous decades,” he said, adding that it would be a chance for Norway and Iceland to improve the working of the organization.

However, Norway’s Prime Minister Erna Solberg does not share the same enthusiasm about the idea.

“Do we want Britain to be involved in dictating what EFTA negotiates with third countries? Will our key national interests be benefited by that? That is the discussion we need to have,” she told the Norwegian News Agency, pointing out that the organization could have good ties with Britain through other agreements.

Our new post-#Brexit neighbours: Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, Albania. Cod and cuckoo clocks. Let's party!
— Dianne Cutlack (@persistentplays)

Even if the trade bloc were probable, it was ”not nearly as desirable as what we are just giving up,” says Michael Dougan, Professor of EU law at Liverpool University as quoted by The Independent.

He added that to become a member of the EEA, Britain would need unanimous accord of all 27 member states, the European Parliament as well as the four European Free Trade Association countries.

https://www.rt.com/business/349008-icel ... ern-union/

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He added that to become a member of the EEA, Britain would need unanimous accord of all 27 member states, the European Parliament as well as the four European Free Trade Association countries.

Beside the negotiations about the conditions of the Brexit (Article 50), il would add other negotiations, with EEA and with EU. The situation will be soon as a spaghetti plate to untangle.

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For the Fun : Waiting for BoJo, a remake of Becket's Waiting for Godot

http://app.ft.com/cms/s/daf24b1c-3eae-1 ... edition=uk

[Anthea]

He added that to become a member of the EEA, Britain would need unanimous accord of all 27 member states, the European Parliament as well as the four European Free Trade Association countries.

Beside the negotiations about the conditions of the Brexit (Article 50), il would add other negotiations, with EEA and with EU. The situation will be soon as a spaghetti plate to untangle.

We should never have allowed ourselves to be taken over so completely but it was a gradual incursion carefully planned to be unnoticed by the general public

In fact the vast majority of the general public have no idea of how deeply the EU has inveigled itself into a position of control

There should be NO such controls

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There are no controls, no rules in Commonwealth ?

[Anthea]

There are no controls, no rules in Commonwealth ?

Not as all controlling

Much more freedom

[Piling]

Well I suppose Theresa May projects to clean the place for Commonwealth workers

She said the rights of EU migrants to remain in the UK will be in play in the talks, implying that without a deal, tens of thousands of Europeans could be thrown out of the UK.

The whole paper there :

Axis of Tory leadership contest has tilted harder to leave

With Brexiters Fox, Gove and Leadsom promising to talk tough with Brussels, May is unlikely to win if she shows flexibility


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... m-gove-may

[Londoner]

Well I suppose Theresa May projects to clean the place for Commonwealth workers

She said the rights of EU migrants to remain in the UK will be in play in the talks, implying that without a deal, tens of thousands of Europeans could be thrown out of the UK.

The whole paper there :

Axis of Tory leadership contest has tilted harder to leave

With Brexiters Fox, Gove and Leadsom promising to talk tough with Brussels, May is unlikely to win if she shows flexibility


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... m-gove-may

The reason for Brexit is immigration for cultural reasons not economic reasons. The hidden agenda of EU free trade, is not free trade, rather it is for the free movement of labour to create a pool of affordable labour for all businesses. This was the main reason for UK to join EU. UK can not afford to implement Brexit for economic reasons. If implemented, Uk will be become starved for lower skilled and manual labour. This sky rockets the cost of labour, something UK never can afford. This may also dismantle all labour and business reforms of Lady Thatcher.

[Anthea]

The reason for Brexit is immigration for cultural reasons not economic reasons. The hidden agenda of EU free trade, is not free trade, rather it is for the free movement of labour to create a pool of affordable labour for all businesses. This was the main reason for UK to join EU. UK can not afford to implement Brexit for economic reasons. If implemented, Uk will be become starved for lower skilled and manual labour. This sky rockets the cost of labour, something UK never can afford. This may also dismantle all labour and business reforms of Lady Thatcher.

As I explained earlier the UK has more than enough semi skilled and unskilled labour - we urgently need skilled workers

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- we urgently need skilled workers

They'll soon live. They are European

In the other way, if more than 3 millions of EU workers are expelled, I suppose UK will welcome the 1.2 million of UK citizens working in EU.