Is what Bill Clinton did different from what Bill Cosby did

[Anthea]

'How's this different from Bill Cosby?': Past of Hillary's husband discussed in Podesta emails

WikiLeaks has released a 20th batch of emails from the account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chair. The issues discussed include Bill Clinton's past, Benghazi, the email server scandal and even alien life.

The whistleblowing site has promised to release 50,000 messages from Podesta in the lead up to the US presidential election on November 8. A total of 34,197 communications have been released to date.

Bill's past

Bill Clinton’s controversial past was evidently of concern to his wife’s campaign team, which discussed how to handle questions on allegations of sexual assault against him.

Preparation for what the media might throw at her included the questions: “Will you apologize to the women who were wrongly smeared by your husband and his allies?” and “How is what Bill Clinton did different from what Bill Cosby did?”

The mail was sent by Ron Klain, a member of Clinton’s debate preparation team, on January 12, 2016. Several days previous Paula Jones, one of Bill Clinton’s accusers, gave an interview calling Hillary Clinton a “liar” and “two-faced” for trying to discredit her husband’s accusers.

Let's hope the Democratic party is not suicidal

A July 2015 email from Clinton adviser Neera Tanden to Podesta discusses a CNN poll which she guesses will show, “Bernie doing pretty well w Hillary and doing as well against Jeb or close to it.”

"Can you imagine what Republicans would do with him if he were the nominee?” Podesta replies, referring to Sanders.

“Well, let's see what the poll actually says. Let's hope the Democratic party is not suicidal,” Tanden says.

“Do we actually know who told Hillary she could use a private email?” she asks. “And has that person been drawn and quartered?”

“Like whole thing is f*cking insane,” she adds.

Downplaying Benghazi

An October 2015 email chain between staffers discusses upcoming paid media ads about Benghazi and Clinton’s email scandal.

The group debates whether the ads should target Iowa and New Hampshire or be a national buy. “I know the boss wants a national cable buy to reach the inside the beltway types, press and donors,” Jennifer Palmieri says. “But press will hate this.”

Oren Shur replies, “If the objective is purely to undermine the Benghazi hearings, I think these spots will certainly help do that. But if the objective is to connect emails-Benghazi and conflate the two in voters’ minds (which consultants feel is an imperative here), I’m not sure we know whether we can credibly do that.”

The campaign appears to have decided to do a national ad on the subject.

Small tweaks

A March 2016 email chain discussing Clinton’s inaccurate statement about the late Nancy Reagan starting a national conversation about AIDS, when she did the opposite, reveals Clinton’s unwillingness to admit mistakes, even when she is proven to be wrong.

The subject of the meeting is described as “the difference between our contiguous universe nonviolent ETI and the celestials in our own universe.”

The team go back on forth on Clinton’s statement about the issue. “YESTERDAY I MADE A MISTAKE IN SPEAKING ABOUT NANCY REAGAN'S record on HIV AND AIDS,” it begins.

“I think the chances of her OK-ing this statement with that top are slim,” Megan Rooney says.

“Here is a revised draft of a statement. It does include the words ‘I made a mistake’ in the first line,” Rooney says. “We need a strategy for getting her to approve this. I don't know if that means someone who is traveling with her (Maya?) making the case... or something else.”

A later draft was then sent, changing it to, “I said something inaccurate when speaking about the Reagan's’ record on HIV and AIDS.”

“The Secretary approved the statement, with small tweaks,” Rooney says.

Extraterrestrial disclosure

Former astronaut Edgar Mitchell, known for his correspondence with Podesta regarding extraterrestrials, emails Podesta regarding the “Phoenix Lights” incident in 1997, in which thousands of people reported sightings of hovering lights in the sky.

Mitchell “was on the phone just as they were happening over Phoenix with an eyewitness describing on March 13, 1997. This incentives about disclosure, while other reports like Roswell disincentives,” according to the mail from April 2015.

The subject of extraterrestrial disclosure is “now more important than ever” according to another mail sent on Mitchell’s behalf a month later.

“It is also imperative that after your talk with Edgar, he then speak directly with President Obama via Skype for historical purposes, about the same issue, while the President is still in office,” Podesta is told.

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[Londoner]

Yes, it is different. In the case of Clinton, if it is about Monica, he has not done anything wrong. It was something by consent. Bill Clinton didn't force the piece of meat between his legs into Monica's mouth. Monica did it by herself. According to the testimony of her former boy friend, she enjoyed that type of act.

In case of Cosby, what he did, was not by consent of the other parties.

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I agree with Londoner. Monica was not raped and she was not underage.

If we compare with all French presidents' love affairs, the White House is a Holy House Americans are 'petits joueurs'. The difference between culture : French people don't care.

[Londoner]

I agree with Londoner. Monica was not raped and she was not underage.

If we compare with all French presidents' love affairs, the White House is a Holy House Americans are 'petits joueurs'. The difference between culture : French people don't care.

French sex culture was and still is a lot more liberal than in America. They say Napoleon Bonaparte seduced all female relatives and house maids with the knowledge of his wife and his wife, Josephine, was keeping two toy boys when he was in Egypt.

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True, Napoleon and Josephine were quite an 'open-couple'. And they staid good friends, even after their divorce for political reasons : Napoleon needed a son and Josephine, older than him, could not have children anymore (she had 2 from a former marriage and Napoleon was fond of them).

[Anthea]

There were several women who made claims against Clinton but they were hushed up

Clinton is just as bad as Cosby - even worse at times

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Are these women Trumps' supporters ?

[Anthea]

Are these women Trumps' supporters ?

Nice try but NO

Clinton was abusing women for years

His stupid wife used to support him and accused the women of lying

Some of the information about Clinton was on the emails Hilary tried to delete but anyone with a brain knows nothing is ever really deleted

Erasing files - shredding files can remove data - delete only removes the link not the data