Turkish embassy threatens U.S. Kurds and friends

[zurderer]

you think so, I didnot heard any anti-pkk word from him, but heard a lot anti-turkey word.

Plus he thanked rioters for their courage.(I see how much he is against riot)

[Piling]

you think so, I didnot heard any anti-pkk word from him

He is not stupid, and won't self sacrify for Turks could sleep quietly.

[heval]

Another interesting article about a second protest in the United States...
The Turkish Consulate Staff said the entire Kurdish community of Los Angeles-California are terrorists!! What a joke.

My first political dialog with the Turkish consulate member
Friday, 07 April 2006
Los Angeles - California (TheKurdistani.com) by Luqman Barwari- Members of the Kurdish Community in California gathered in front of the Turkish Consulate, in Los Angeles on April 05, 2006 to show their support of the recent uprising in the Kurdish cities of Northern Kurdistan. Many of the demonstrators drove from long distances to participate in showing their support. The unusually cold and wet weather in Los Angeles did not stop the dominators from their march.

The crowd included school children, men, women, and elderly. They marched in front the Turkish Consulate holding signs, distributing press releases to the passers bye, and chanting slogans in support of the recent uprising in Northern Kurdistan. The organizers received all the necessary permits from the city of Los Angeles and carried out a very peaceful demonstration. Representative of the Kurdish Community in greater Los Angeles area contacted the Turkish consulate at Los Angeles, and invited them, and asked for a meeting with the Consular general to discuss the recent developments in North Kurdistan.

Their request was denied. However, on the day of the demonstration, few of the consulate members were outside observing the demonstrators. Some demonstrators made additional efforts to approach them, and discuss the issue with them out side the building hosting the Turkish consulate. I was one of the participants who spoke to the consulate staff members.

This has been my first encounter with a Turkish official other than the time when I last traveled to Southern Kurdistan via Turkey three years ago. Off course in this encounter, I could mention the word Kurds, Kurdistan, and Kurdish several times without any hesitations. I’m certain the Turkish consulate staff member’s ears were not so used to hearing these words. However, I made a deliberate effort to repeat these words several times. When I posed the question why they did not respond to my e-mail in which I stated that a delegation of the Kurdish community members would like to meet with them on the day of the demonstration to open a healthy dialog and disc!

Regarding the recent developments in Northern Kurdistan, their reply to me was, “We will never sit with the terrorists.” I was not much surprised by his response because the Turkish officials have always rejected any initiative taken by the Kurdish side, be it a political, cultural, or any other non-governmental organization, to find a peaceful solution to the Kurdish question.

Unfortunately, the Turkish government labels such initiative for peace as terrorism. I felt obligated to ask, “didn’t the Turkish government recently host a high-ranking Hamas official!? Isn’t Hamas considered a terrorist organization!?” Well, being a Turkish diplomat, he tried to defend Hamas, and considered them to be a legitimate political party, where they democratically won the elections in Palestine. I wonder, if the same chance had been given to PKK in Turkey, what the result would have been.

These Turkish officials scream "democracy! democracy!" but yet they refuse to sit down with a few American Kurds to have a healthy discussion.

[zurderer]

They marched in front the Turkish Consulate holding signs, distributing press releases to the passers bye, and chanting slogans in support of the recent uprising in Northern Kurdistan.

recent rioters were terrrorists so supporters too.

[Vladimir]

There are a lot of terrorists then..

[dyaoko]

They marched in front the Turkish Consulate holding signs, distributing press releases to the passers bye, and chanting slogans in support of the recent uprising in Northern Kurdistan.

recent rioters were terrrorists so supporters too.

Zurdegoo , your comments are so close to Bin Laden , Saddam, Khomeyni , Taliban's comments...

they are terrorists themselves , they kill humans themselves but they call everybody else "Terrorsits"

[zurderer]

There are a lot of terrorists then..

News say there are not more than 2500 rioters, and most of them were childs and women.

they are terrorists themselves , they kill humans themselves but they call everybody else "Terrorsits"

realy? wrong, I am sure some innocent people were also killed(but majority of them were not innocent), but that killing were against laws. Wrong comperation.

By the way, If someone accused Turkey for unnecessary force, It is understandable(not acceptable), but supporting riot is not acceptable. Rioters were guilty, They not only attacked public buildings, but also private properties, and they burned 3 people.

Supporters of this riot and this guilts are not innocent too.

[Vladimir]

Lot of Kurds I spoke too supported the demonstrations. Doesn't matter where they come from. PKK and Turkish nationalists got what they wanted.

And I don't approove the dealing of the Turkish police/army with the protestors. You almost seem to accept the killing of demonstrants.

http://www.bianet.org/2006/04/01_eng/news77420.htm
http://www.bianet.org/2006/04/01_eng/news77419.htm
http://www.bianet.org/2006/04/01_eng/news77416.htm
http://www.bianet.org/2006/04/01_eng/news77418.htm

[zurderer]

And I don't approove the dealing of the Turkish police/army with the protestors. You almost seem to accept the killing of demonstrants.

well, Only three died because of bullets, one of them died a bullet that cannot be used by police.

One of them is a child playing at a park, and other also have not relation with protests.

So Infact no rioters killed by police, so dealing of turkish police with protestors is fine, but others died.

I dont think police aimed bystanders. they need much more education, they were using guns not toys, they should be aware of this, but I dont think police was cruel.

[heval]

They marched in front the Turkish Consulate holding signs, distributing press releases to the passers bye, and chanting slogans in support of the recent uprising in Northern Kurdistan.

recent rioters were terrrorists so supporters too.

I'm going to make this reply really short because you are a Kemalist who truly sees things one-sided. I don't even know why you are in this forum.

You can go ahead and call a majority of the Kurdish people "terrorists," just as your government chooses to do so, but don't you think it loses it's meaning just a bit? Peaceful protestors who never committed a crime in their life are terrorists now according to you and your Turkish embassies: Your arguments are always so foolish.

[zurderer]

I'm going to make this reply really short because you are a Kemalist who truly sees things one-sided.

I am not kemalist, I am ultra-religious fanatic, have no interest with kemalism. Infact dont like it too.

You can go ahead and call a majority of the Kurdish people "terrorists," just as your government chooses to do so, but don't you think it loses it's meaning just a bit?

I am not calling all kurds terrorists, but active supporters of crimes.

Peaceful protestors who never committed a crime in their life are terrorists now according to you and your Turkish embassies: Your arguments are always so foolish.

burning three people is far from becoming innocent, supporting them is also not innocent.

Or do you think they are innocents?

[heval]

I am not calling all kurds terrorists, but active supporters of crimes.

burning three people is far from becoming innocent, supporting them is also not innocent.

Or do you think they are innocents?

Yes, those who protest peacefully are innocent. And those Kurds who protested in the United States in the above articles are innocent too.

And yes, you are calling all Kurds terrorists, but perhaps, you have changed your mind again. You tend to do that. And what you are saying now isn't any better anyways. You are now saying all Kurds are active supporters of crimes, so in other words, all Kurds are criminals according to you.

Kemalist or not, with your anti-Kurdish agenda, you are the same. It's clear your purpose on this forum is not to recognize the Kurdish issue but to try and convince others that Turkey is rightful in all it's actions regardless of oppression. That is typically what the Turkish fascist does so we should not be surprised by your statements.

[zurderer]

Yes, those who protest peacefully are innocent.

There were not anyone peacefully protested, all of them were agressive sorry.

And those Kurds who protested in the United States in the above articles are innocent too

They supported unlawful acts, not only harmed Turkey or turks, but also kurds. As I said, If they were innocent, and harmed noone.Turkey will not harm them, but They are warned because their colloberates at Turkey harmed people and buildings.

And yes, you are calling all Kurds terrorists, but perhaps, you have changed your mind again. You tend to do that.

I didnot call all kurds as terrorists, but active supporters of PKK. to wish and to act is two different thing.

You are now saying all Kurds are active supporters of crimes, so in other words, all Kurds are criminals according to you.

no, you missunderstood, I am trying to say, that all kurds who is active supporters of PKK are terrorists. I am not saying all kurds are active supporters.Elections dont show this.

Kemalist or not, with your anti-Kurdish agenda, you are the same.

Anti kurdish agenda? why are you so speacial? I have no anti arab, laz chechen, bosniak,albanian or even anti armenian or greek agenda but only antikurdish agenda?

It's clear your purpose on this forum is not to recognize the Kurdish issue but to try and convince others that Turkey is rightful in all it's actions regardless of oppression.

well wrong, saying Pkk is terrorist or burning 3 women is guilt doesnot mean, Turkey have right to oppress kurds.

That is typically what the Turkish fascist does so we should not be surprised by your statements.

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realy? defending violent protests(that reasoned a lot death), is not fasism, but accusing them is fasism?

Sorry my friend, but wake up, that protestors even terrorised their own people.

[heval]

realy? defending violent protests(that reasoned a lot death), is not fasism, but accusing them is fasism?

You are not defending fascism by condemning the riots. You are defending fascism by claiming that all the problems in Turkey are because of Kurds, not Turkey. You are defending fascism because you claim that Turkey is lawful when burning over 6000 villages, throwing children in jail, shooting innocent civilians etc etc etc.

...ahh this conversation goes no where with you. You wake up.

[zurderer]

when did I justify burning villages, and when did I say all kurds are problem?

ahh this conversation goes no where with you. You wake up.

agree,you are fighting with someone else, not me.