Turkish politician fined over genocide denial

[eugenlitwin]

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A Swiss district court has found a Turkish politician, Doğu Perinçek, guilty of racial discrimination for denying the 1915 Armenian massacre was genocide.



The court in Lausanne agreed with the prosecutor's demand and handed Perinçek a suspended fine of SFr9,000 ($7,336) as well as a one:off financial penalty of SFr3,000.

The court also ruled that Perinçek would have to pay SFr1,000 to the Swiss:Armenian Association as a symbolic gesture.

The politician, whose left:wing Turkish Workers' Party has no seats in the Turkish parliament, was brought to court after calling the genocide "an international lie" during a public speech in Lausanne in July 2005.

Under the Swiss penal code any act of denying, belittling or justifying genocide is a violation of the country's anti:racism legislation.

And Lausanne is the capital of canton Vaud, one of two Swiss cantons along with Geneva where the parliaments have voted in recent years to recognise the Armenian massacre as genocide.

Judge Pierre:Henri Winzap accused Perinçek of being "a racist" and "an arrogant provocateur" who was familiar with Swiss law on historical revisionism.

According to Winzap, the politician's action "appears to have racist and nationalist motives". The Armenian genocide is "an established historical fact according to the Swiss public", he added.

Perinçek's lawyers have called into question the authority of the district court to hear such a case. The Turkish politician said he would appeal against the verdict, which he called "racist and imperialist".

He admitted in court earlier in the week that there had been massacres but said there could be no talk of genocide. "I have not denied genocide because there was no genocide," he argued.

Armenians maintain the mass killings in 1915 were genocide, a charge Turkey disputes."

[eugenlitwin]

Interesting to read Turkish posts on same subject
Originally Posted by [WDW]Megaraptor
Where do you draw the line?

Will claiming that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had military significance become illegal too? What about claiming that accounts of violence in, say, Iraq, are exaggerated? Who decides what happened for real and what didn't when enforcing these types of laws?


They dont... They only listen to one side of the story. Talk about freedom of speech..

It's pretty obvious by now that Turkey is not going to accept this "genocide" claim, they have been "denying" for how long now?? like 92 yrs now...

lets not forget, Turkey has even invited ANY 3rd party countries to join the Turkish-Armenian History Commitee... why don't the Swiss offer some Historians to join this commitee, if they know so much?

Here is the Turkish point of view on the issue according to the Turkish Embassy located in Ottawa, Canada.
(probably the same P.O.V of almost ALL Turkish members on this forum)

http://www.e-konsolosluk.net/eLibrar...rary_Main.aspx

be sure to read "The Armenian Problem and International Law" , feel free to check out other related ones if you still dont believe your eyes.
this is your post in http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...d.php?t=106829

and this is your second post in http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...=107058&page=2




it shows that you dont know what you write....and typical hypo manner of you. Get rest... political minded opinions is nonsense and unvalued when true historical things there and no any conclusion what is right or wrong!!! and there is no any ***international genocide court**** decision about so-called Armenian genocide. Why?

Alright, understood. (imo, there was no genocide. LOL, you prolly already knew my opinion, but i just had to rub it in.)

on topic,

I'm sure Perincek will do just fine with his 90kg of historical documents at the European Court of Human Rights.
http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-24033.html

^^ seems like i'm talkin to a wall. no hope.
It seems you even deleted a very important part of my quote.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Calanen

There is truckloads of proof. Thousands of photographs, reports from diplomats, and the records of the Turkish parliament implementing its program of genocide.


Then why doesnt Armenia want to take this to International court if they want to prove the Turks are guilty??


Quote:
Originally Posted by Calanen
The reference to international courts of law is just ridiculous, they did not exist at the time, that is in 1915.


yea its very ridiculous because Armenian "genocide" is purely political, nothing else!

in order to get your land reparations, you HAVE to go through International Court of law to prove your case. even if intl courts didn't exist, 3rd party countries still kept track of their history.

ANY 3rd party country is invited to to take part in the History commision.
how much longer can we argue about this issue?

etc

[Balci]

Long live Swiss!

[eugenlitwin]

Long live Swiss!

have you read turks opinions on same subjekt? on
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... p?t=107058