What is your political conviction?

[Diri]

What is your political conviction?

In e.g. - what form of government or policy do you support or condone?

[K4L_2007]

Communist - support a protected marked and closed state
Not communist because i think this would give the army to much power.

Socialist - support a welfare state
well, welfare = something we never had but wanted so bad,

would we do it for the countries who didnt do it for us?
The thing is, since the economics will grow extremely in kurdistan, our neighborhood countries will leave theirs to come to ours, I dont want a mixed culture where we kurds end up becoming a minority. However I think that we shouldnt mix government with civilians.

Democrat - support vote of majority
We must have democrat but only for the kurds, I dont want people with other ethnics to ruin it because they might not want the best for kurdistan.

Capitalist - support economic freedom
Education is better

Liberal - support the free will of the individual
Wouldnt keep the people well organized

Religious - support a religious government - state religion
If this works the way i think, then its good. But since almost all religious government has ruined their countries i say NO

Right-wing - support a nationalist government
Yes, this is a must. They say that in a few years southern kurdistan will be like dubai but even better and if the government focuses on the kurds, we will be rich.

Anarchist - support no government - want open borders and no politics
Would make the people too weak from enemies

I voted for right-wing but what i really want is a mix of : Right-wing, democrat and maybe socialism. If that works.

Thats my thoughts concerning this

[Balci]

thats kinda Nazism you know

National Socialism, similar to the fascism in German at the 30's

kinda hard to say, I considered myself as a communist a while ago, but prefer Kurdish nationalism now, liberalism seems kind of interesting, At the same time, I'm trying to make my own political ideology, which is rather hard, a liberal society with a supreme leader which only got the power to choose among the peoples suggestions, to try to tell everything short, hehe.

I think i vote socialist.

[K4L_2007]

thats kinda Nazism you know

National Socialism, similar to the fascism in German at the 30's

kinda hard to say, I considered myself as a communist a while ago, but prefer Kurdish nationalism now, liberalism seems kind of interesting, At the same time, I'm trying to make my own political ideology, which is rather hard, a liberal society with a supreme leader which only got the power to choose among the peoples suggestions, to try to tell everything short, hehe.

I think i vote socialist.

yeah, thats what i meant with the mix, our own political ideology, but still i dont think all sorts of people should have the same rights as the kurds, because most likely the people of our neighbor lands will come and be there. The difference between my ideology and national socializm is that i dont want to annihilate an entire country and i dont think everyone who is not a kurd, is less worth.
All i want is that others shouldnt have the rights to vote when we have democrat, and they have no benefits (example in dubai, if your from dubai, you get some land, and maybe 250 thousand dollars for yourself to build something + what you already have.

However im not saying that we have the right to opress others just because we are kurds etc.

[Balci]

oh, yea, I understand, its kinda right though. First comes us, the Kurds, then we can aid our neighborers, we will not do the same failure as them.

[K4L_2007]

oh, yea, I understand, its kinda right though. First comes us, the Kurds, then we can aid our neighborers, we will not do the same failure as them.

exactly

[Diri]

Thanks for very interesting input from the two of you...


I like your analysis, K4L...

As you and Balci concluded, we should find our own style in politics... But before anything; Kurdim û Kurdistanî!

So that's why - I'd be angry if the government in a future Kurdistan, doesn't act for the best of the Kurds and Kurdistan...

I don't want a fascist government - I just want a patriotic government which builds and improves our country...

[Balci]

I do agree with you both, the best Kurdistan is the most patriotic and democratic Kurdistan, with tolerance for other races and religions.

[zurderer]

Liberal.

[K4L_2007]

What is your political conviction?

Kurdish

[Balci]

not liberal in the start, but meaby after some years.

[Diri]

Guys - the topic is not about Kurdistan...

It's about your political conviction... In any country or state...

So if Zurderer is a Liberal - then that is very good, because he is a Turk - and that means he supports the free will of the Kurds also - which I already know he does...


If you are talking about Kurdistan - a future Kurdistan as a country - please state so...

[K4L_2007]

Guys - the topic is not about Kurdistan...

It's about your political conviction... In any country or state...

So if Zurderer is a Liberal - then that is very good, because he is a Turk - and that means he supports the free will of the Kurds also - which I already know he does...


If you are talking about Kurdistan - a future Kurdistan as a country - please state so...

I edited my post

lol

[Diri]

Guys - the topic is not about Kurdistan...

It's about your political conviction... In any country or state...

So if Zurderer is a Liberal - then that is very good, because he is a Turk - and that means he supports the free will of the Kurds also - which I already know he does...


If you are talking about Kurdistan - a future Kurdistan as a country - please state so...

I edited my post

lol

Hehehe


It's okey - you didn't need to do that...

As Kurds, naturally we will talk about Kurdish politics... It's natural... Even if you read MY post - I am talking about Kurdistan too...

So I should have been clearer in my initial post...

But I voted for a right-wing political party because of being a Kurdish nationalist...

Here in Norway, I voted for Socialist... But I am gonna change that for next time - I will vote Labour party... Which is more liberal...

[K4L_2007]

Guys - the topic is not about Kurdistan...

It's about your political conviction... In any country or state...

So if Zurderer is a Liberal - then that is very good, because he is a Turk - and that means he supports the free will of the Kurds also - which I already know he does...


If you are talking about Kurdistan - a future Kurdistan as a country - please state so...

I edited my post

lol

Hehehe


It's okey - you didn't need to do that...

As Kurds, naturally we will talk about Kurdish politics... It's natural... Even if you read MY post - I am talking about Kurdistan too...

So I should have been clearer in my initial post...

But I voted for a right-wing political party because of being a Kurdish nationalist...

Here in Norway, I voted for Socialist... But I am gonna change that for next time - I will vote Labour party... Which is more liberal...

Yup im a nationalist too.

Here in sweden, the ideologies aren't shown much within the parties. example if you switch from a socialist party to a liberalist party, you don't feel any big difference.

Whats more depending on which party wins here in sweden, is what things they have planned for the country.