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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:25 pm

Israel kill Kurds ? Sure ! it is well known that hundred of thousands of Kurds slaughtered in Turkey since 1923, Kurds massacred in Anfal, Kurds executed currently in Iranian prisons, Kurds who are shot by Baathists forces in Syria in 2004, 2005, are mainly complaining about JEWISH attacks against Kurdish nation ! :lol:
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PostAuthor: balochistan_kurd » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:04 pm

i think this is not funny....
yes i know that who martyred, executed,and occupied the land of kurds, not need of mentoning it here .
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: lavin » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:29 am

Balochestani, Have you ever been out side of the Kurdistan (I mean your land right now). if you have been , you will see that the Arab-muslim do not treat you like themselves.

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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: balochistan_kurd » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:38 pm

Lavin, i can understand you feeling. Even i Hateee arabs sooo much, they martyred our thousand s of people since the time of khalid bin waleed , till now. they martyred kurds by using the name of islam . i know arabs made us muslim by force & power in kurdistan and in Balochistan . but real islam is not like the islam of arabs ,i wana clear that iam not defending people like (late) zarqawi. there is a big difference between real islam and the islam of arabs , afghans and punjabiz . like arabs did in iraq punjabiz martying our people by using the name of islam in paki occupied Balochistan.
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: lavin » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:07 pm

so you have not been outside, they are treating Kurds as their slaves, even now. and think that they are higher in every thing just because that Islam is n Arabic.

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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: balochistan_kurd » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:46 pm

i know everything, i know that how arabs , fars and turks r treating our People .arab s rtotally wrong if they think that they r higher in every thing just because that Islam is n arabic .i told u before that ALLAH sent the Holy Quran in arabic because arabs were the most worst people of the time.
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: lavin » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:42 pm

whatever reason for Allah was to send Quran in Arabic, nowadays Arabs do not even accept you as real muslim, in front of your face probably they say that we are "brother" (very funny) but in realty they think that they are very special and they are the only muslim and true mulsim and for sure (as I am living in US) they treat the other nations like Kurds or Persian (who are Muslims) like intruders and slaves. Persian do not give shit to them (and that's very good) but the Kurds I dont know why we have to support them?

the realty in this world is very very far what we like

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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: matin123 » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:35 am

@ Kak Balochistan Kurd

King David was king of Israel. We say in song "David Melex Israel..." David King of Israel. If I'm not mistaken King David and King Solomon or in arabic "Dawood and Suleyman" are also prophets in Islam. So these prophets pbut were kings of israel. they were jews. so how could you say the jews are occupiers? israel was promised to the jews by G*D himself. since the time moses pbuh led the jews out of egypt and on to the promised land.

also Salahadin saved the jews from the christians during the crusades. Salahadin was an honorable man and any jew who knows his history will be appreciative to him. however, i credit this to him being kurd. i doubt that an arab would do the same.

this is the history. today's situation is another story but we could have discussion about that as well if you like.
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: balochistan_kurd » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:18 pm

yah i know wht arab s think about us,i know everything . they thinks that they r special then other origins.
But this is not our problem that whtever they think about us. we have to support islam not arabs, we must stand against invader s who invaded our Qibla e awal ( Masjid e Aqsa ) . we all are defenders of our Religioun .
Hazrar Dawood (as) and Hazrat Suleman (as) were not Jews , they preech the Religioun of islam, we can say that they r Muslims. because Allah has sent them to preech the Religioun, Day by day Muslims of isreal changed thier religioun .
we can say that Hazrat Dawood (as) and Hazrat Suleman ( as) were the cuf of the chain of Propthets. that start s from Hazrat Adam(as) to hazrat Mohammad (pbuh) .
Sultan Salauddin ayubi Saved the all people of isreal. he made isreal a free state , mean to say that muslims , jews , chiristan s were allowed to perform their religious activites.
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: talsor » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:49 pm

It is the religous mentality that brought Kurds to their knees , It is sad to see some of our brother and still live in the Egg shell of Islam , feeding on themself .
It is the age of nationlism not religion , When they catch you they do not ask you if you are muslim or not , they ask you if you are a kurd or Arab , Based on that , they will either cut your head or let you go .
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: matin123 » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:05 pm

balochistan_kurd wrote:yah i know wht arab s think about us,i know everything . they thinks that they r special then other origins.
But this is not our problem that whtever they think about us. we have to support islam not arabs, we must stand against invader s who invaded our Qibla e awal ( Masjid e Aqsa ) . we all are defenders of our Religioun .
Hazrar Dawood (as) and Hazrat Suleman (as) were not Jews , they preech the Religioun of islam, we can say that they r Muslims. because Allah has sent them to preech the Religioun, Day by day Muslims of isreal changed thier religioun .
we can say that Hazrat Dawood (as) and Hazrat Suleman ( as) were the cuf of the chain of Propthets. that start s from Hazrat Adam(as) to hazrat Mohammad (pbuh) .
Sultan Salauddin ayubi Saved the all people of isreal. he made isreal a free state , mean to say that muslims , jews , chiristan s were allowed to perform their religious activites.


saying that hazrat e dawoood and hazrat e suleyman were muslims is not true. they were jews. they spoke hebrew. and all jews come from hazrat yaqub, grandson of hazrat e ibrahim. they lived by the laws of the Torah. arabs come from hazrat e ismaeel. jews have believed in 1 G*D thousands of years before Islam or the Quran came. how can you claim all jewish prophets to be muslim? for example jews don't claim hazrat e ismaeel to be a jew. because jews come from hazrat yaqub. G*D gave the Torah to beni Israel. the israelites. ishmaelites are the arabs who thousands of years later would come to monotheism through islam.

Kak Balochistan Kurd, I hope you are not offended by anything that I write. I have respect for Islam as it teaches the oneness of G*D. We simply have different religious beliefs. I have studied Islam and I know what it says about the Torah and how all the prophets were Muslim and how Hazrat Ibrahim was asked to sacrifice Hazrat Ismaeel where we believe he was asked to sacrifice Hazrat Ishaq. But I believe that there is no harm in discussing these differences. I hope you agree.
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: balochistan_kurd » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:23 pm

We are not Discussing the race of Prophets here, Torah,Holy Quran and Bible were the Book s of ALLAH. ALLAH sent them to Guide and Preech his Religioun.hazrat Dawood (as) didnt Preeched Judism , hazrat issa (as) didnt preeched christinaty . Allah sent them to guide People and tell them that ALLAH is one and the Last Prophet has to come. but after them the People of european race changed their Religioun, even they mixed illegal words in Holy Bible & in Holy Torah. now a days, we cant found these Book s in their real Words. But Holy Quran is un-changable .
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: matin123 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:21 pm

The Torah is the exact exact same as it was since the original Torah. If you knew the rules for writing aTorah, you would understand why. They have found Torah s from thousands of years ago and have compared it to a current Torah, and it is the exact same.The Bible however has been altered and revised many times (even Christians admit to this). And you're right, the Quran has remained unchanged as well.

And please answer me this... if Hazrat e Dawood didn't preach the Torah, then why did he write the Tehilim (aka Psalms) ?
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: balochistan_kurd » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:15 pm

i Dont know Exactly about Torah either it is in Original shape or it is changed .\
iam not saying that Hazrat Dawood (as) Didnt Preeched Torah , but iam saying that Hazrat Dawood(as) & Hazrat issa (as) Preeched islam thorough thier Holy Books.
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Re: Ahmad el-Kurd - Hamas mayor in Gaza Strip

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:43 pm

but iam saying that Hazrat Dawood(as) & Hazrat issa (as) Preeched islam thorough thier Holy Books.


Did you read them ?
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