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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: talsor » Tue May 08, 2012 11:39 pm

Are we kurds that extremists?

Some are but in general No .

When the Egyptian and other arab coutnries make fun of islam, does the arabs protest?

No they just kill the preson .

When american soldiers abuse islamic facts, does the arabs protest?

Yes and there were many .

When egypt passes a law about having sex with dead wives, did the arabs protest?

No , they think having sex with dead is ok .

When tunisia disallowed parying outside mosques, did any arab protest?

No , because this way more donations can be collected .
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: Londoner » Wed May 09, 2012 4:56 am

If any one has manners, this speaker, Mulla, on youtube, doesn't have any.

These desert-nomad cultivated savages shouldn't be allowed to take freedom of speach away from any one.
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: Welato_21 » Wed May 09, 2012 8:55 am

Londoner if they insult religion yes they should close the newspaper, this is not freedom of speech well done by KRG.

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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: brendar » Wed May 09, 2012 9:51 am

talsor wrote:Just imagine how much Kurdish media care about religious issues . Here Nichervan walking to a press conference with few mullas to talk about the issue .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8eHmAS2DQs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   



Kak talsor, do you believe that this press conference was actually the day before yesterday or three days ago i think. So kak nechirvan just made sure that he cares about the issue but the mullas still did what they desired anyway.
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: brendar » Wed May 09, 2012 9:52 am

Londoner wrote:If any one has manners, this speaker, Mulla, on youtube, doesn't have any.

These desert-nomad cultivated savages shouldn't be allowed to take freedom of speach away from any one.


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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Wed May 09, 2012 11:26 am

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jjmuneer wrote:Lol I've already voiced my opinion on extremism before. Did you forget?
Lol why would need to remind me about Saddam?

Are we kurds that extremists? No
When the Egyptian and other arab coutnries make fun of islam, does the arabs protest? I don't actually care
When american soldiers abuse islamic facts, does the arabs protest?I don't actually care
When egypt passes a law about having sex with dead wives, did the arabs protest? I don't actually care
When tunisia disallowed parying outside mosques, did any arab protest?I don't actually care

Why do you even care? Why don't you answer my questions now? You just moan on the internet, I bet you don't talk as much in real life.



Your comment is absolutely horrible. You just showed that you do not care about Kurds and Kurdistan. Therefore, ISLAM for you comes before everything. Anyway, do not even respond any more because your comments are a disgrace and also insults towards Kurds .


In what way does my comment show I do not care about Kurds and Kurdistan? Funny you tell me to respond first, then you tell me not to. You need some mental help. I mean how would you answer those questions then? I'm wondering what have you done for Kurdistan lately? I bet you look like an Arab yourself, that is why you seem to have these prejudices against Arabs, lol you really sound like those Persians that get really pissed at being called Arabs.
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Wed May 09, 2012 11:27 am

talsor wrote:Just imagine how much Kurdish media care about religious issues . Here Nichervan walking to a press conference with few mullas to talk about the issue .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8eHmAS2DQs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

Its politics my friend, politicans across the world do it all the time. Either move to the far left or right, or inwards. (I mean this in a general sense)
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: brendar » Wed May 09, 2012 11:40 am

jjmuneer wrote:
brendar wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Lol I've already voiced my opinion on extremism before. Did you forget?
Lol why would need to remind me about Saddam?

Are we kurds that extremists? No
When the Egyptian and other arab coutnries make fun of islam, does the arabs protest? I don't actually care
When american soldiers abuse islamic facts, does the arabs protest?I don't actually care
When egypt passes a law about having sex with dead wives, did the arabs protest? I don't actually care
When tunisia disallowed parying outside mosques, did any arab protest?I don't actually care

Why do you even care? Why don't you answer my questions now? You just moan on the internet, I bet you don't talk as much in real life.



Your comment is absolutely horrible. You just showed that you do not care about Kurds and Kurdistan. Therefore, ISLAM for you comes before everything. Anyway, do not even respond any more because your comments are a disgrace and also insults towards Kurds .


In what way does my comment show I do not care about Kurds and Kurdistan? Funny you tell me to respond first, then you tell me not to. You need some mental help. I mean how would you answer those questions then? I'm wondering what have you done for Kurdistan lately? I bet you look like an Arab yourself, that is why you seem to have these prejudices against Arabs, lol you really sound like those Persians that get really pissed at being called Arabs.


I bet you did not even read the topic and what questions do you want me to answer? and did i attack you personally to tell me that i look like arab? Looking like an arab does not upset me because southern kurds and iraqi arabs look like each other, east kurdistanis and iranians look like eachother. No one has problem with this. As long as my brain is not an arab brain which makes more sense, dont you agree?

Unfortunately, i can tell that your way of thinking is utterly arabized! This is not an offend
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Wed May 09, 2012 11:50 am

Ok I'll ask it again.
What do all those questions have to do with Kurds?
In what way am I thinking? So now your a pyschologist?
Lol well no southern Kurds no not look like Arabs nor do Eastern look like Iranians, but since you were jumping on personal insults, and deviating from my questions, I thought I might grab your attention.
You said you were an Eastern Kurd?
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: brendar » Wed May 09, 2012 2:09 pm

jjmuneer wrote:Ok I'll ask it again.
What do all those questions have to do with Kurds?
In what way am I thinking? So now your a pyschologist?
Lol well no southern Kurds no not look like Arabs nor do Eastern look like Iranians, but since you were jumping on personal insults, and deviating from my questions, I thought I might grab your attention.
You said you were an Eastern Kurd?


I typed those questions to refer to islam in arab countries. Therefore, Islam came from arabs and now half of the arab world do not really care about it anymore. Centuries ago, anything about islam would have been execution or criminal or whatever.... Now the arab world is not even reacting about any islamic facts. Therefore, my questions were referred to the KURDS. Why are the kurds SO bothered about islam? as on the other hand, shouldn't they think more about anceint YEZIDI and other religions that were existed years before islam. Shouldn't those religions be taken more seriously morethan islam?

Do not tell me that 95% of kurds are muslim and thats why they care about islam! So, should the kurds leave their ancient religion because of a new one? did the jews or christians or buddists did the same? No.

And dont tell me that islam was not forced by arabs. You and the rest of 40 million kurds were completely forced. I dont blame them because the muslims 1400 years ago were billions so if they didnt convert, they could have been massacred. (well, kurds still get massacred because they are muslim)
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PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Wed May 09, 2012 2:23 pm

I'm not, but you don't take into account these facts:
Kurds practice islam in a different way, even us Kurd faylis practice it different from persians.
Sure islam was forced upon us, but it was more of a process of marginilsation of the native religon, it happened over time.
Sure it was forced upon us, but I'm not forcing anyone here to be a muslim, actually I didn't even mention the fact I was a muslim, neither do any of the other Kurds, but until you had to bring it up. I did aswell.
Your right in a sense that Islam was founded by the Arabs, but do you see Kurds who are muslims swearing allegience to the Arabs? No, only a few idiots.
It also must mean that Christians and Jews are slaves to the semites in the middle-east.
I'm not attempting to attack you personally, but your probably a south Kurd, so you have an islamic background that you completely deny. I don't know if it is for the reasons ou say, or the fact you live in Europe, because I know that is why people are compelled to do it.
Anyways lets agree you cannot deny that religon isn't important amongst Kurds, but neither can I deny that not every Kurd is religious or has a religon for that matter of fact. (Not that I actually care, but since you brought it up, I'm just saying)

Oh and regarding Yazidism, no one really knows much about it, there is no proof that Yazidism is or was the religon of the Kurds in ancient time, but certainly it does have pre-Christian and pre-islamic origins.
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: brendar » Wed May 09, 2012 5:36 pm

jjmuneer wrote:I'm not, but you don't take into account these facts:
Kurds practice islam in a different way, even us Kurd faylis practice it different from persians.
Sure islam was forced upon us, but it was more of a process of marginilsation of the native religon, it happened over time.
Sure it was forced upon us, but I'm not forcing anyone here to be a muslim, actually I didn't even mention the fact I was a muslim, neither do any of the other Kurds, but until you had to bring it up. I did aswell.
Your right in a sense that Islam was founded by the Arabs, but do you see Kurds who are muslims swearing allegience to the Arabs? No, only a few idiots.
It also must mean that Christians and Jews are slaves to the semites in the middle-east.
I'm not attempting to attack you personally, but your probably a south Kurd, so you have an islamic background that you completely deny. I don't know if it is for the reasons ou say, or the fact you live in Europe, because I know that is why people are compelled to do it.
Anyways lets agree you cannot deny that religon isn't important amongst Kurds, but neither can I deny that not every Kurd is religious or has a religon for that matter of fact. (Not that I actually care, but since you brought it up, I'm just saying)

Oh and regarding Yazidism, no one really knows much about it, there is no proof that Yazidism is or was the religon of the Kurds in ancient time, but certainly it does have pre-Christian and pre-islamic origins.


I can tell you that yezidi people are the original kurds and they are up to a big extent with facts are the ancient kurdish religion. I have heard alot and you can ask the yezidi's because they dont lie
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Wed May 09, 2012 5:46 pm

brendar wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:I'm not, but you don't take into account these facts:
Kurds practice islam in a different way, even us Kurd faylis practice it different from persians.
Sure islam was forced upon us, but it was more of a process of marginilsation of the native religon, it happened over time.
Sure it was forced upon us, but I'm not forcing anyone here to be a muslim, actually I didn't even mention the fact I was a muslim, neither do any of the other Kurds, but until you had to bring it up. I did aswell.
Your right in a sense that Islam was founded by the Arabs, but do you see Kurds who are muslims swearing allegience to the Arabs? No, only a few idiots.
It also must mean that Christians and Jews are slaves to the semites in the middle-east.
I'm not attempting to attack you personally, but your probably a south Kurd, so you have an islamic background that you completely deny. I don't know if it is for the reasons ou say, or the fact you live in Europe, because I know that is why people are compelled to do it.
Anyways lets agree you cannot deny that religon isn't important amongst Kurds, but neither can I deny that not every Kurd is religious or has a religon for that matter of fact. (Not that I actually care, but since you brought it up, I'm just saying)

Oh and regarding Yazidism, no one really knows much about it, there is no proof that Yazidism is or was the religon of the Kurds in ancient time, but certainly it does have pre-Christian and pre-islamic origins.


I can tell you that yezidi people are the original kurds and they are up to a big extent with facts are the ancient kurdish religion. I have heard alot and you can ask the yezidi's because they dont lie

No one is denying that Yezidism has pre-islamic, indo-Iranian roots, but also has islamic and christian influence. Mithraism was the original religon of the Kurds, then Zorastrianism became a more dominant religon during the Sassanid period.
I know only a few Yezidis, but they say there is no different from them and other Kurds, quite the opposite to what Turkish propgaganda says.

Religion with near 800,000 members world wide (other estimates set this as low as 100,000, but the higher figures are more likely). The largest group of Yazidis live in Iraq, near Mosul, but there are small communities in Syria, Turkey, Georgia, and Armenia.
Researchers believe that the Yazidi creed has elements from Zoroastrianism, Manicheism, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
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Re: Well done Kurds, do not comment!

PostAuthor: talsor » Thu May 10, 2012 12:21 am

brendar wrote:
talsor wrote:Just imagine how much Kurdish media care about religious issues . Here Nichervan walking to a press conference with few mullas to talk about the issue .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8eHmAS2DQs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   



Kak talsor, do you believe that this press conference was actually the day before yesterday or three days ago i think. So kak nechirvan just made sure that he cares about the issue but the mullas still did what they desired anyway.


The only time the Islamist will be happy when they are in power hanging people in the street , because some mulla said so . There is no compromises with them and they will use any opportunity to create destruction in the name of Allah and Jihad .

Kak Nichervan met with the Mullas and assured them that the newpaper will be closed and the editor will be arrested and a Law will be passed within 10 days to forbid blasphemy , Yet they went and did all this destruction .
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PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Thu May 10, 2012 10:38 am

what most people think is this. kurds were not forced by SWORD to be muslim. i dont say arab conquerors were good people but they respected other religions much more than the west at that time. in the west you had no freedom of choice religion. islam was spread most by economical and community force. they forced non-muslims to pay larger taxes than muslims, and even these taxes were much more smaller than taxes in the west. armenians, greeks, assyrians paid extra taxed to be christian under muslim rule. and the mass converting to islam was after the umayyads. the poor people in sassanid empire and byzanite empire were tired of high taxes because of the wars so some even saw muslims conquerors welcome.
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