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[Shirko]

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[Anthea]

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[Cewlik]

Lol : Palestinians are not against Kurds ? What about Yaser Arafat supporting Saddam in 1991 (in fact Öcalan did it also) ? And Abu Nidal sheltered in Bagdad until his death ? And Palestinian militias sent to fight Peshmergas ? Why do you think that in Iraq, after 2003, most of Shiite Iraqi and Kurds refused to help and welcome Palestinian refugees ? Because they were employed by Saddam, as Lebanese militias are employed by Ahamdinejad.

And what about Hamas calling Peshmergas 'terrorists' who want to steal the Arab land (Kurdistan) ?

The only Arab countries who were not against Kurds : Egypt with Naser and Qadhafi ; and both were also dictator, btw.

So you can defend Palestinians' rights if you like. But don't expect their help in return. Many Kurds fought with Palestinians against Imperialism, Zionism, etc., in 70s and in 80s (PKK) but as so far as I know, which Palestinians fought with Kurds to defend Kurdistan ?

They are very busy to defend their own existence. But at least, they should have not consider Kurds like 'traitors to Arab nation' etc.

Moreover I remind you that many Kurds are pro Israel, more than in France (which is considered by Israel as a pro-Arab country).

I think you need some lessons of History :







there are more pics for your pleasure :

http://saradistribution.com/barzanisisraelresa.htm

Now, a question : When Mustafa Barzani fought against Iraqis, who Palestinians supported ? During Anfal, how many Palestinians did protest against the Kurdish Genocide ?

While Kurds are killed and persecuted by Ahmadinejad, Arabs are crying like munafiqun for each Palestinan killed. Do they care of Kurds ? Let's talk about muslims' solidarity nowadays before complaining about Crusades…

That was a good lesson in history for HZKurdi.

HZKurdi, I am also a Muslim, but I dont understand your point. Why do you try to show the Palestinians as pro Kurdish? If they want to help us they are welcome, but they did nothing until now, but Kurds did many things for them, they even fought for them (PKK) against Israel, but they only supported our enemies and they fought with them against Kurds.

Yes Israel helped the Kemalists against the Kurds, but you talk like that they are the worst state against Kurds. The Arab states did and do more worse things to Kurds.

[Shirko]

In 1991, hardly anyone even knew much about what Saddam was doing to the Kurds.[/quot]

You just know nothing about your own history. In fact Islamist and Apoist share the same narrow-mindness.

Piling you were right before. Kurds do need to learn much more about their history

It is really sad that so many of them know so little about Kurdish history and even less about the Middle Eastern history

NO we are not narrow minded, we are just stuborn and we are our own leaders, we do not follow anyone, we carve out our own path and history. WE DO NO BROWN NOSE TO NO ONE, we fight and cooperate with whom serves our intrests. In the whole Middle East, evryobody, Jews, Arabs, Turks and the others have screwd us at one time or another. We do not even trust each other. So the saying goes, we have no friends but the mountains. Even Kurds back stab each other to.

[Shirko]

So if I get banned here too, I`ll know exactly whats REALLY going on. And i saved my comments, just incase they get deleted (cleaned up).

[Shirko]

Cewlik, I am not against Israel, I am against anyone stealing land from someone else, whats right is right. And you, like many other Kurds do not undrrstand that Kurdish families got evicted from their land in Palestine. PALESTINIANS KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT kurds, because of Arab propaganda and nationalism and they are barely surviving themselves, how can they stand up for the Kurds? And because they supported Saddam does not mean they are against Kurds, they supported him because he pretended to be the New Salah Ad-din, but he was nothing but a phony. The Palestinian cause is directly linked with the Kurdish cause, we should suppprt each other. Because if Turkey has to give up land, then so will Israel.

[Cewlik]

And because they supported Saddam does not mean they are against Kurds

That exactly means that they are against Kurds, they fought against Kurds and they knew what they did. Why did they stop to spport Assad who helped the Palestinians? Because Assads kills Sunni Arabs, but if he would kill only Kurds they would still support him, like they did it with Saddam.

The Palestinian cause is directly linked with the Kurdish cause, we should suppprt each other.

Like I said, Kurds already fought with them against their enemy, they are the one who still did nothing for Kurds, they only fought against Kurds.

[Shirko]

And I know that there are some ani-Islanic Kurds, they are the ones that reject the Ayybide Dynasty, and the Graet Salah Ad-din and the Kurdish armies that were the greatest of there time, those are the ones that don't support Palestine. Do you know how many Kurds must of faught for it, they were our ancestors. And the Zioinist project is directly linked to the projects to suppress Kurds and prevent them from obtaining a country of there own, going back to the collapse of the Ottam Empure and the colonial empries and the young Turks. No one replied to my comment about Attaturk, was he not a crypto Jew that supported Zionism?

[Feyli_kord]

HZkurd how can you defend staunch supporters of the Baath party? It's the antithesis of anyone who isn't Arab. I'm with you on this one piling. We have no reason to support Palestinians. My father was interned in abu ghraib. They had Palestinians working in the republican guard and fedayee. My relatives house was given to palestinians who served in the Iraqi army as volunteers during the Iran-iraq war. There is a reason why they fleed from baghdad after 2003. Thanks to saddams staunch support and unnecessary anti-israel positions there was even more pressure on iraq than need be. Honestly I'd rather have 100 000 Israelis and Americans live in Kurdistan and Iraq before i'd allow 100 Palestinians and Egyptians.

[Cewlik]

No one replied to my comment about Attaturk, was he not a crypto Jew that supported Zionism?

Thats not true, I already replied to that statement.

Yes Israel helped the Kemalists against the Kurds

Look Kurds helped the Palestinians in the past (Ayybide Dynasty) and in the modern history (PKK).

And the Palestinians did nothing for Kurds and only helped our enemies. And you even justify that. Show us that you are a Kurd and criticize that what they did, dont use lame excuses to defend them. Of course they knew what they did, they were not blind and deaf, they exactly knew that they fought for the Pan Arabist Saddam against Kurds, Shias and Iran, thats why they joined his army.

Do you not agree that now they must start to help the Kurds after all what Kurds did for them and what they did against the Kurds?

[Feyli_kord]

No one replied to my comment about Attaturk, was he not a crypto Jew that supported Zionism?

Heval, now you even start to lie, I already replied to that statement.

Yes Israel helped the Kemalists against the Kurds

Look Kurds helped the Palestinians in the past (Ayybide Dynasty) and in the modern history (PKK).

And the Palestinians did nothing for Kurds and only helped our enemies. And you even justify that. Show us that you are a Kurd and criticize that what they did, dont use lame excuses to defend them. Of course they knew what they did, they were not blind and deaf, they exactly knew that they fought for the Pan Arabist Saddam against Kurds, Shias and Iran, thats why they joined his army.

Do you not agree that now they must start to help the Kurds after all what Kurds did for them and what they did against the Kurds?

Help? Kake they exploited our grief. The people of iraq. why the hell should we support them? I'm telling you that palestinians were in republican guard units. My father was imprisoned in abu ghraib in 1980, he told me that some of the interogators had palestinian accents.

[Cewlik]

why the hell should we support them?

I never said that we should support them, I said that Kurds already did it, I dont say it was good, but your PKK did it, they fought with them against Israel.

So if we talk about help, they are the one who must help us.

[Anthea]

My father was imprisoned in abu ghraib in 1980, he told me that some of the interogators had palestinian accents.

In more recent years Americans used the prison to commit atrocities on Iraqis including, I expect, Kurds. Should Kurds now refuse American help and support

[Feyli_kord]

My father was imprisoned in abu ghraib in 1980, he told me that some of the interogators had palestinian accents.

In more recent years Americans used the prison to commit atrocities on Iraqis including, I expect, Kurds. Should Kurds now refuse American help and support

Yes, but what kurds did they imprison? People who were involved in bombings and supporting islamic of state of iraq, then fine, i don't care for them. They're not even kurds to me. Especially not mullah krekar and other kurdish idiots who support violent islamists, and ruin our reputation.

[Shirko]

Cewlik, I agree with you regarding that the Palestinians and Jordanians should show support and even help the Kurds, because they owe it. They should all recognize the genocide too, and any Palestinian that faught against Kurds with Saddam is no friend of mine. But we should not hate them all and accuse them of being against Kurds for what a few if them did. Keep in mind that Palestinains fought Jordanians and Lebanese, does that mean we should label them as against Arabs? Anthea, madeca good point. And another thing you should consider befire making any judgements, almost the whole world was supporting Saddam during the Iran Iraq war, even Kurds were fighting on both sides of that war. But believe me, if you ask the average Palestinain or Jordanian what he thinks of Kurds, you will get a positive response, and bet you, if you go to Amman, you will learn that most of them prefer Kurds over Iraqi Arabs.

FelyKurd, i am sorry to hear what heppend to your family, but you should not generalize, I am sure you do not like it.